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    sulu | # 2201 | 2011-03-24, 10:35 | Report

    LibreOffice is available in wheezy and I guess since the release is not that long ago it should also work in squeeze. But I'm not sure if it will work in lenny or a lenny /squeeze mix (which ED is based on).
    I'll check that.

    @qole:
    Do you see any chances to release an image purely based on squeeze anytime soon or do you have a solution for the libncurses5 problem when trying to do a complete dist-upgrade to squeeze?

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    qole | # 2202 | 2011-03-24, 16:04 | Report

    Has anyone tried disabling swap on the EMMC to improve Debian performance?

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    rebhana | # 2203 | 2011-03-25, 09:54 | Report

    Originally Posted by sulu View Post
    The only problem I have identified is that one must not upgrade libncurses5 to squeeze.
    What is the problem with libncurses5?

    As far as I'm aware, packages that should not be upgraded to squeeze include gconf2 and libpulse0.

    It would indeed be great to be able to move on to new-stable Debian, but I guess qole already tried. So I'm afraid we have to live with hybrid lenny-squeeze-wheezy installations.

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    mscion | # 2204 | 2011-03-25, 13:34 | Report

    Originally Posted by rebhana View Post
    What is the problem with libncurses5?

    As far as I'm aware, packages that should not be upgraded to squeeze include gconf2 and libpulse0.

    It would indeed be great to be able to move on to new-stable Debian, but I guess qole already tried. So I'm afraid we have to live with hybrid lenny-squeeze-wheezy installations.
    Any chance the name of the squeeze repository could be changed to squeezy. Then we would depend on lenny-squeezy-wheezy.

    Sorry, I had to do that...

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    mscion | # 2205 | 2011-03-25, 21:40 | Report

    I mentioned this in another thread about compilers but thought it might be of interest as it pertains to easy debian.

    I recently found that the debian repositories have gfortran which is a gnu project version of fortran 95 . I downloaded it using synaptic and ran some simple tests (do loops that summed up stuff, printing "hello world" and so forth). It worked with no problem.

    The repositores also have f2c which converts fortran to c. I tried that as well on a fortran code and then compiled the c version with gcc. Worked like a charm.

    I just have to marvel at the capabilities that easy debian brings to the n900. Thanks!

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    WhiteWolf | # 2206 | 2011-03-31, 08:52 | Report

    I do not get installed.

    What repository turn on / off? and the steps please.

    Thanks.

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    sulu | # 2207 | 2011-03-31, 09:36 | Report

    Originally Posted by rebhana View Post
    What is the problem with libncurses5?
    short version:
    Upgrading libncurses5 breaks the Debian image and Maemo's Easy Debian installation.

    long version:
    When I started using ED Lenny was still stable and I prefer to use a pure Debian stable. However Squeeze was already in freeze for some time and I thought upgrading the whole ED installation to Squeze should be a good idea. So I upgraded to Squeeze but ED froze during the upgrade. I had to kill it from Maemo.
    When trying to restart ED via the launcher icon it didn't start, so I tried from a terminal. Unfortunately I don't remember the error message but basically it was saying that Maemo's ED was broken. So I reinstalled ED and tried again. ED started but from within Debian I received an error message about a broken libncurses.so.5 and I didn't even get to a console login. I couldn't fix this with fsck. The image was broken so I had to restore my backup from before the dist-upgrade.
    My image was highly customized at that time so I thought that there might be a problem with some dependencies. I tried a 2nd time with a vanilla ED image but got the same libncurses5 problem. Then I tried a 3rd time with an image that was pretty much stripped down to only run LXDE, but the problem still existed. Unfortunately one can't get rid of libncurses5 if one wants to keep a working Debian.

    Originally Posted by rebhana View Post
    It would indeed be great to be able to move on to new-stable Debian, but I guess qole already tried. So I'm afraid we have to live with hybrid lenny-squeeze-wheezy installations.
    I'm fine with Lenny as long as it gets support, but I don't like release mixes. You always have to watch out for dependency problems.
    Frankly I was pretty shocked when I had the first look at ED's sources.list: Lenny + Squeeze + multimedia for both releases. I figured out that multimedia was necessary for working audio, but I'd prefer to have only one release in there.

    btw:
    Does anybody know why audacity crashes when stopping a playback? Until then it works fine but both, the versions from Lenny and Squeeze crash when clicking the stop button. Unfortunately I have no other ARM system to check if this is a bug in the Debian package.

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    leetnoob | # 2208 | 2011-03-31, 15:32 | Report

    lets talk omap hardware acceleration in easy debian....

    i know easy debian uses a nested x server but if i launch an ed application from maemo using the 'debbie' command i bypass that. i can successfully get mplayer to play SOME videos doing this.

    so are there any omap hw acceleration drivers available for us to use in e.d.? ideally some va-api backends. i've searched but couldn't find anything, so am close to giving up.

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    qole | # 2209 | 2011-03-31, 16:29 | Report

    leetnoob: perhaps you could figure out a way to hack in the dsp-accelerated gstreamer plugins from Maemo, and use a gstreamer-based player. This would basically amount to using the Maemo media player in Easy Debian. So anything that is hardware accelerated in Maemo would also be accelerated in Debian.

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    leetnoob | # 2210 | 2011-03-31, 17:26 | Report

    Originally Posted by qole View Post
    leetnoob: perhaps you could figure out a way to hack in the dsp-accelerated gstreamer plugins from Maemo, and use a gstreamer-based player. This would basically amount to using the Maemo media player in Easy Debian. So anything that is hardware accelerated in Maemo would also be accelerated in Debian.
    you just beat me to it, i can see that we actually have xv hardware acceleration in e.d. so the next thing is getting maemo-esque gstreamer support. i take it this hasn't been tried before...? are the maemo gstreamer bits and debs available in any maemo sdk repositories?

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