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2009-12-08
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#51
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Originally Posted by kanishou
That could be the problem. I haven't used the media player today or browsed photos and apart from Nokia Messaging freezing up the device has behaved a bit better. I haven't used any programmes other than IM and email so 1 out of 2 is not in itself a great result.
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2009-12-08
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"Oh, did I forget to mention that I dumped 20GB of multi-media on it." Are there any linux experts having actual problems? Maybe I'll go read the reboot thread, but I'm starting to see a pattern here. Regardless, noobs take note: when someone is trying to help you, please try to post the information they're asking for. If you don't understand them, ask for clarification. Experts: someone please create a one button applet that allows people to dump info to a file that can easily be attached to a forum post. We're the triage, not the bug fixers. Off the top of my head, minimum info needed:
df
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a diff of a sorted dpkg -l and a pristine firmware sorted dpkg -l
firmware version
uname -a
df
ps
top -b -n 1
a diff of a sorted dpkg -l and a pristine firmware sorted dpkg -l
firmware version
uname -a
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2009-12-08
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#53
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Originally Posted by daperl
Not sure the relevance of the part you put in quotes. Are non-linux experts to assume or recognise that a device would become totally unstable as a result of 20gb of media files being placed on it? What's the purpose of the 32gb and SDHC slot if the device shouldn't be capable of functioning properly when it has loads of media on it?
"Oh, did I forget to mention that I dumped 20GB of multi-media on it." Are there any linux experts having actual problems? Maybe I'll go read the reboot thread, but I'm starting to see a pattern here. Regardless, noobs take note: when someone is trying to help you, please try to post the information they're asking for. If you don't understand them, ask for clarification. Experts: someone please create a one button applet that allows people to dump info to a file that can easily be attached to a forum post. We're the triage, not the bug fixers. Off the top of my head, minimum info needed:
df
ps
top -b -n 1
a diff of a sorted dpkg -l and a pristine firmware sorted dpkg -l
firmware version
uname -a
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by etuoyo
Of course it's reasonable to have expectations of stability, but when you title threads that imply devices behave like the weather, I can usually guess what comes next. And sure enough, as your posts continued you revealed more about your behavior, which then gave people more insight about the n900's behavior. So, yeah, maybe next time give more information up front about what you did, and then maybe you can get back to "Just Kinda Buggy" quicker. Or, if you aspire to "Never Buggy," hopefully you would have gathered enough information to properly file a bug report. Good luck.
Are non-linux experts to assume or recognise that a device would become totally unstable as a result of 20gb of media files being placed on it?
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by daperl
Not sure why putting 20gb of media on a 32gb device (plus possibility of 16gb more) can be described as "behaviour" in the negative way you use it. I simply used the device in the way it was intended. If that caused a fault with the device it is nothing to do with my "behaviour" and everything to do with the device. Not to mention it only became a problem about 6 days after I put the files on. I have put loads of media on loads of other devices without problems. If you are trying to be helpful please try to be less condescending. There is no where it is written that mainstream consumers are not allowed to use your geek device.
Of course it's reasonable to have expectations of stability, but when you title threads that imply devices behave like the weather, I can usually guess what comes next. And sure enough, as your posts continued you revealed more about your behavior, which then gave people more insight about the n900's behavior. So, yeah, maybe next time give more information up front about what you did, and then maybe you can get back to "Just Kinda Buggy" quicker. Or, if you aspire to "Never Buggy," hopefully you would have gathered enough information to properly file a bug report. Good luck.
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2009-12-09
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just to butt in.
and now you reveal something new again.
I guess it just IS easier, if you also state what you did before going "omg the phone crahsed, it's buggy" but lets say you installed "program yx" which is a buggy program. And you first say it hours after.
So in short, explain the phones "condition" like, if you installed something as of late, or how many mb/gb of files you got on it, and when it started to act like that.
I mean anybody who read your OP, would have to read through all of these 6 pages so far to understand more.
SO imo you should go back and update your OP with more information so people can help you better
and now you reveal something new again.
I guess it just IS easier, if you also state what you did before going "omg the phone crahsed, it's buggy" but lets say you installed "program yx" which is a buggy program. And you first say it hours after.
So in short, explain the phones "condition" like, if you installed something as of late, or how many mb/gb of files you got on it, and when it started to act like that.
I mean anybody who read your OP, would have to read through all of these 6 pages so far to understand more.
SO imo you should go back and update your OP with more information so people can help you better
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2009-12-09
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To give a bit more background on Tracker: This is a background process that gathers information about your media, so it can quickly show you all your videos with thumbnails for example. Once the indexing of your media is completed, it will just sit quietly doing nothing.
It should generally do the indexing work while the device isn't busy (which may explain why it may still not be done with your 20 GB of media after six days), but perhaps there are still issues with it that occasionally cause the device to become sluggish while it's at work.
In any case the problems should disappear soon enough, and if they don't, then the only thing I can imagine is that Tracker runs into a bug while trying to index a specific file, that causes it to stall and consume resources endlessly. If that turns out to be the case, more specific steps could be taken to isolate which file may be causing the issue.
It should generally do the indexing work while the device isn't busy (which may explain why it may still not be done with your 20 GB of media after six days), but perhaps there are still issues with it that occasionally cause the device to become sluggish while it's at work.
In any case the problems should disappear soon enough, and if they don't, then the only thing I can imagine is that Tracker runs into a bug while trying to index a specific file, that causes it to stall and consume resources endlessly. If that turns out to be the case, more specific steps could be taken to isolate which file may be causing the issue.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by Tiase
Okay I take your suggestion. Did not mention I installed msn plug in because many others said they had been using it for a while without any problems but did mention it as soon as someone asked if I installed any new programmes and I mentioned it in like the fourth post in this thread.
just to butt in.
and now you reveal something new again.
I guess it just IS easier, if you also state what you did before going "omg the phone crahsed, it's buggy" but lets say you installed "program yx" which is a buggy program. And you first say it hours after.
So in short, explain the phones "condition" like, if you installed something as of late, or how many mb/gb of files you got on it, and when it started to act like that.
I mean anybody who read your OP, would have to read through all of these 6 pages so far to understand more.
SO imo you should go back and update your OP with more information so people can help you better
Did not mention I had 20gb of media on the device because I did not see how it was relevant in any way whatsoever since:
- the device has 32gb built in and micro sdhc specifically for loads of media so fail to see why it should be unable to cope with 20gb;
- it is the same media files I have had on a number of other devices which did not give me any problems whatsover
- the problem started several days after I put the files on. Even you in your advice say I should mention if I installed any programmes recently. Well surely with putting files on the device it should be the same logic. If the files had been there on the device for several days without problem then it would have been hard to see a connection.
Anyway to conclude the device seems to be working fine and as far as I can tell it stopped acting up as randomly as it and I doubt it had anything to do with anything I did or did not do or any "behaviour" of mine. I uninstalled the msn plug in and then realised I couldn't do without it as most of my contacts are msn (won't need it much once facebook chat is around but need it for now). So I installed it back again. I also still have exactly the same amount and the exact same media files. Maybe it was as someone suggested, the problem was with Tracker and it just needed time to resolve itself.
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2009-12-19
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does anyone know what the process /usr/sbin/browserd does?
it's eating about 20% of my ram and it hasn't been doing that before
resetting the device does not help
it's eating about 20% of my ram and it hasn't been doing that before
resetting the device does not help
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2009-12-19
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Originally Posted by abb_eliten
It is the backend of the web browser, common to all browser app instances. What you describe doesn't seem unreasonable.
does anyone know what the process /usr/sbin/browserd does?
it's eating about 20% of my ram and it hasn't been doing that before
resetting the device does not help
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