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danramos | # 1711 | 2010-12-21, 18:46 | Report

Originally Posted by elie-7 View Post

oo yeah becasue android can jailbreak a ps3, and android can do usb OTG, and android is fully open sourced, and android is for smart people, and android has a jaw dropping multitasking.....
google is trying to control the world .....

I know you're just trying to throw bait out there

but there's some good to be gleaned from talking about those things and I thank you for bringing them up:

For anyone that is interested, there is a way to jailbreak a PS3 with Android using an App called PSFreedom (http://phandroid.com/2010/09/06/use-...playstation-3/ and look... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772953 The N900 even gets a mention as a device that CAN do it in the XDA's Android forums without the hoard of flaming that someone on here seemed to expect.)

I'll admit it doesn't do OTG, as far as I know. I thought the N900 can't do OTG without some hacking? I know my N800 does, so technically Maemo wins there.

I'm not sure that the relative intelligence of users ever quite figured into any of the conversation. o.O

Multitasking--Android has it, but I wouldn't call it jawdropping. Compared to Maemo's multitasking, it's a weakness. It's far better than iPhone but not quiet as good as Maemo, so it sits somewhere in the middle.

Google is probably trying to control the world. I have no information on that, but it wouldn't surprise me. I know Apple tried but they're starting to show signs of slowing down. Where's Nokia on that?

Originally Posted by Reffyyyy View Post

@elie-7

Some Android devices can jailbreak a Ps3 and Android is open source (Maemo isn't fully open source.)

Maemo multitasking is the best though (imo)

Android is open-core... not entirely open-source. Maemo is also open-core.. not entirely open-source. As far as I can tell, there's really no bragging rights to that from either camp except that Android seems to be doing a better job of opening up more portions and freeing up dependencies on Google's closed apps, whereas I see the opposite trend with Maemo. It's my hope that MeeGo doesn't arrive in the same shape as Maemo.

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elie-7 | # 1712 | 2010-12-21, 20:48 | Report

Originally Posted by danramos View Post

I know you're just trying to throw bait out there

but there's some good to be gleaned from talking about those things and I thank you for bringing them up:

For anyone that is interested, there is a way to jailbreak a PS3 with Android using an App called PSFreedom (http://phandroid.com/2010/09/06/use-...playstation-3/ and look... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772953 The N900 even gets a mention as a device that CAN do it in the XDA's Android forums without the hoard of flaming that someone on here seemed to expect.)

I'll admit it doesn't do OTG, as far as I know. I thought the N900 can't do OTG without some hacking? I know my N800 does, so technically Maemo wins there.

I'm not sure that the relative intelligence of users ever quite figured into any of the conversation. o.O

Multitasking--Android has it, but I wouldn't call it jawdropping. Compared to Maemo's multitasking, it's a weakness. It's far better than iPhone but not quiet as good as Maemo, so it sits somewhere in the middle.

Google is probably trying to control the world. I have no information on that, but it wouldn't surprise me. I know Apple tried but they're starting to show signs of slowing down. Where's Nokia on that?

Android is open-core... not entirely open-source. Maemo is also open-core.. not entirely open-source. As far as I can tell, there's really no bragging rights to that from either camp except that Android seems to be doing a better job of opening up more portions and freeing up dependencies on Google's closed apps, whereas I see the opposite trend with Maemo. It's my hope that MeeGo doesn't arrive in the same shape as Maemo.

i got to sayp you make a very strong point, thumbs up on that, forget what i said about the intellegence part, that only works on ios

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i have nothing against android, in fact if the n9 was running on a 1ghz snapdragon, i prefer switching to a gingerbread arm more than 1 ghz device, because i think these are the specs of an android device in q2-3 2011 .
but i know i'm going to switch back to meego

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danramos | # 1713 | 2010-12-21, 21:06 | Report

Originally Posted by elie-7 View Post

i got to sayp you make a very strong point, thumbs up on that, forget what i said about the intellegence part, that only works on ios

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i have nothing against android, in fact if the n9 was running on a 1ghz snapdragon, i prefer switching to a gingerbread arm more than 1 ghz device, because i think these are the specs of an android device in q2-3 2011 .
but i know i'm going to switch back to meego

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I'm not even sure about iOS's relevance to intelligence either, really. There's something good to be said about all those hackers that manage to break into iOS and force it to do neat things... like, say, getting iPhone to run Android. (And run it surprisingly well!)

But I know where you're going--and I can agree that the typical iOS user prefers to have Steve Jobs decide everything for them and do appear a bit.. developmentally disabled. (double-meanings FTW!)

I really would hope that MeeGo is the OS we always wanted with Maemo. I hope that Intel's and the Linux Foundation's participation is what does it for us, since I can't expect that from Nokia. Their history with Maemo has been abysmal. I'll give them credit for at least paying StsKeeps for his work--he's done a lot of good work and tolerates a lot of hassle from me and manages to keep my hopes up for MeeGo--which is hard to do.

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rebhana | # 1714 | 2010-12-22, 22:07 | Report

Originally Posted by attila77 View Post

There was some initial enthusiasm, but the thing has pretty much stalled.

Your report on how negotiations between Community Council and TI went is a bit short and cryptic. Were there negotations at all as announced?

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Mentalist Traceur | # 1715 | 2010-12-23, 04:06 | Report

rebhana: I'm sure there were. It's not like this is the first time he said anything about them. He's posted updates a few times already. *Shrug* I'd love it if negotiation e-mails/phone-call-transcripts, or at least the gist of them in more than just very very cursory terms, could be made public. But that might be its own can of worms legally, and wouldn't help relations with TI.

adobeflash10 | # 1716 | 2010-12-23, 16:17 | Report

Here you go, its not accelerated so its very slow, but it works...
(google street view sorta works)
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abhirajsoni | # 1717 | 2010-12-23, 16:53 | Report

Originally Posted by adobeflash10 View Post

Here you go, its not accelerated so its very slow, but it works...
(google street view sorta works)
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whats that?

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Bratag | # 1718 | 2010-12-23, 16:56 | Report

[QUOTE=adobeflash10;902911]Here you go, its not accelerated so its very slow, but it works...
(google street view sorta works)

Um. Arent we trying to discourage this kind of thing in the hope that TI might help us out officially?

debernardis | # 1719 | 2010-12-23, 17:32 | Report

@adobeflash10: thanks - it works!

Edit: sort of - indeed. Not possible to pan the streetview image, it goes back to the map view. My own javascript page w/ kazehakase works better

At least you satisfied my curiosity

Edit2: youtube is also unusable at all.

Edit3: I'm back at my original stock plugin. Works better in every way. This closes the issue imho.

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festivalnut | # 1720 | 2010-12-23, 17:44 | Report

just on a purely hypothetical basis, if i were to download the libflashplayer.so, would it just be a matter of replacing the current libflashplayer.so in /home/user/.mozilla/plugins?