Jack6428 | # 1791 | 2010-12-31, 19:39 | Report

So is there any way to play 480p videos on YouTube on the N900 or not?

mattbutsko | # 1792 | 2010-12-31, 19:59 | Report

This thread has gone nowhere really fast.

gerbick | # 1793 | 2010-12-31, 20:16 | Report

180 pages is fast?

SavageBrat | # 1794 | 2010-12-31, 20:24 | Report

I must be the only one happy about the flash situation, not really a big you tube fan but mine works just fine..I added Tweak flash plug in and hide user agent and the plug-in for firefox and they both play fine..the only thing i noted is that i can't change the frame rate in firefox as it seems to stay at 240 (think that's the lowest one) but it plays fine depending on my connection, now google is a different sorry if I take out or disable the hide user agent it only lets me play at 240 with the plug-in enable it lets me play all the frame rates but the higher ones are choppy but I have a terrible wifi connection at my apartment building..

gerbick | # 1795 | 2010-12-31, 21:03 | Report

Quite wrong. Adobe made it available for the vendors, it's their job to place it into either their update process (OTA or otherwise) or make it available via the app store; if at all. The vendor/manufacturer makes the final decision if it's available for their platform.

Nokia made that decision for you. They didn't make it available for whatever reason that will make people rest easy at night - didn't want to pay royalties, didn't want to test it, didn't like the performance, didn't want to pay for more optimization work by Adobe, didn't want to optimize it themselves... whatever.

Google lightened the amount of how much OS level optimization was necessary by the vendors since they're the "controllers" of the OS. Who's the controller of Maemo?

Exactly.

Your fix is flawed. Very flawed. Other platforms got it. Why didn't Nokia?

I mean... it's a pocketable computer, right? It should be able to handle lil' ol' Flash.

Name one process centering around browsing the web that doesn't require finances.

Browsers? Cost money to develop and append newer technology. Plugins? The little word called progress means that research and development as well as OS optimization will always be a part of the ordeal.

There's no lottery - that's perhaps made up. The fact that the prior generation - of which the N900 is on the cusp of - got obsolete quicker than anticipated and Adobe (and many others) started to go from 400-600mhz on the ARM platform to 800-1000mhz instead was due to either: lack of ability to optimize their bloated code on slower processes, their lack of willingness to backport to a minority or machines whereas many others were coming out that were faster, or ultimately they didn't just know how.

I mean... I dunno. Should I be more pissed off that my machine I bought a year ago is no longer supported by either the manufacturer or the vendors that have taken a cue from the manufacturer and raised their requirements to possibly what that manufacturer will have out soon enough?

That last bit of communication happens mostly business to business. Adobe knew what WebOS 2 was going to bring from the OS to the hardware. Adobe knew what Android was going to bring from the OS to the hardware. Adobe didn't know that Nokia was going to do... so they finished their work, handed it off to Nokia... and nothing happened.

A lot of people are upset about not getting FP10. A lot of people are upset at the wrong people. If TI got it and is releasing it in a totally unoptimized format, then why didn't Nokia do the same? Or better yet... where is the Nokia version that Adobe handed out to them?

Those questions are the right ones. Not some hackneyed and ill-aimed inquiry that goes back to Adobe. They did the work. Just like Microsoft did the work for Mozilla pertaining H.264 and playback whereas Mozilla didn't want to pay that license.

Nokia didn't release jack. Fix that.

elie-7 | # 1796 | 2010-12-31, 23:59 | Report

thats a very smart question, i'll say its the awesome community over here .

gerbick | # 1797 | 2011-01-01, 00:12 | Report

It hasn't been fully transferred to this community. Not yet.

elie-7 | # 1798 | 2011-01-01, 00:16 | Report

how awesome woulded it be if they do, wouldn't we get flash 10 than ? i don't mind paying the ' royalities '

sjgadsby | # 1799 | 2011-01-01, 02:22 | Report

Naw, see, it got to nowhere fast and set up camp there.

gerbick | # 1800 | 2011-01-01, 02:27 | Report

Doubtful closed source items like Flash and Skype will ever see any improvement, or distribution with the community based efforts to maintain Maemo.

But you better believe items like Modest will be improved upon.