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#21
I'm not going to beg you to return that device and replace it with another N800, but I am serious when I say your problems sound EXTREMELY abnormal. I've had my hands on hundreds of these babies and have never seen anything like what you describe. I've been abusing the heck out of 3 personally and they keep cranking with zero defects.

I'm serious too when I say the program guys would love to get their hands on that one (along with full description of the problems)-- the sooner the better.
 
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Texrat, can you confirm you have installed osso-xterm 0.13 (repository.maemo.org), and enabled 128MB virtual memory? Other than this, pretty much standard. I'll give it another week before trying osso-xterm again!
 
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I have osso-xterm installed. Haven't tried the virtual memory yet, but I will.
 
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I rebooted my N800 several times the first day. The second day it would not boot, got to the NOKIA on white background but no boot bar at bottom. Tried several times, the same. Removed the battery for a minute, re-installed. It booted.
The next time I tried this the same thing happened. Removed the battery for half a minute or so, no deal.
Removed internal SD card (the one that came with the N800), it booted fine. Re-installed SD card.

The latter procedure works every time. I have an internal and external card installed at all times, but removing the external card makes no difference. Removing the internal card lets the unit boot fine. I have not installed any third party software, nor enabled or changed any setting. I have used the 'backup' function to back up to the internal card.

To me (with lots of Linux experience) this seems to be a problem of the boot loader, my guess is that it's accessing the card because it's there, but doesn't then move on to boot from its internal flash. I'm guessing of course, but this is exactly like what you see if similar stuff happens on desktop computers. If so, it should be fixable by a firmware update from Nokia.
Unit: Made in Finland.
Sw: 2.2006.51-6

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#25
Originally Posted by csoldfield View Post
Feb 3rd is when my 21days is up for exchange/return at CompUSA. What is the expected turnaround time for Bugzilla responses?
I'd just exchange the unit for another and see if you still experience the same problems.
 
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#26
I had no further problems running osso-xterm 0.13mh18bora2 with regard to *any* reboot-loops. This was with some other apps (maemo-mapper, mplayer, ...) installed.
I installed osso-xterm 0.13 (the version running when I had my original problems) and did have some minor problems (email app not starting, browser window closing), but no reboot-loop. I only ran it for a day, since I decided to return my N800 for a full-refund (thank you CompUSA).
I've now ordered a Sharp C1000 which I'm hoping will suit my needs better.
Nice hanging out with you guys.
 
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Maybe you can post a comparison of the C1000 to N800 sometime in the near future? Would be interesting to hear what you think of the internet experience on the smaller screen, and what (if any) benefits you think the C1000 has over the N800 (and vice versa).

So long.
 
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Originally Posted by csoldfield View Post
...and enabled 128MB virtual memory? Other than this, pretty much standard.
Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
... my guess is that it's accessing the card because it's there, but doesn't then move on to boot from its internal flash.
Is this it? While having virtual memory enabled and the access to the swap is somehow failing?
Everyone with RSOD should confirm!

IŽll be swithing my virtual 128MB off...
 
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#29
Well, I have only seen the boot problem, not the RSOD. But then again I don't use swap, although removing the card does resolve the boot problem.

(Re: subject: I guess we still haven't seen a real WSOD on the N800 yet?)
 
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#30
I can confirm all my testing had 128MB Virtual enabled. But when I had the RSOD (apt naming), I pulled both cards and battery, and it still refused to boot. It showed the 'NOKIA' screen for 32seconds, then blanked and repeated. I assume if one has Virtual swap space enabled and the Internal card has been removed, then it will be disabled? Big oversight if not...
Clive
 
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