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2007-01-20
, 12:18
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Mhm... I've never read about this "instant on"-thing, but maybe it's got mixed up and relates to the respective feature that makes the 770 so suitable for mobile use: The 770 really has an instant on/off feature (cover on: "off", cover off: "on" instantly).
For the N800 I only heard about a "always on" concept Nokia is trying to impose on customers; this seems to imply the exact opposite of instant on/off.
For the N800 I only heard about a "always on" concept Nokia is trying to impose on customers; this seems to imply the exact opposite of instant on/off.
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2007-01-20
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Originally Posted by crackhead
The N800 doesn't have an instant-on like the 770 did when removing the cover, but it *does* boot up in about half the time from a "powered off" state. Maybe this is what the other people meant?
I've noticed people say that they love the N800's "instant on" capability. Call me crazy, but my N800 takes about a minute to boot up after being turned off. I WISH I could put it to sleep and wake it as fast as, say, my Mac powerbook (if you're not familiar with OSX, the laptops are awake by the time the screen opened).
Am I missing something? The lock options I get when hitting the power button aren't really sleep modes, imho...the unit is still on and the screen wakes with any tap.
If you do a cold boot, power on both devices side by side, there is a big difference...
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2007-01-20
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Originally Posted by crackhead
I never shut off my 770 before and I don't shut off my N800 now. I just hit the power button and select "Lock touchscreen and keys" (actually, it's just power button, followed by center D-pad button. It's amazing how quickly this has become an automatism). The screen doesn't wake at all (it's locked, remember?) and I have set my WiFi to disconnect after 5 minutes.
I've noticed people say that they love the N800's "instant on" capability. Call me crazy, but my N800 takes about a minute to boot up after being turned off. I WISH I could put it to sleep and wake it as fast as, say, my Mac powerbook (if you're not familiar with OSX, the laptops are awake by the time the screen opened).
Am I missing something? The lock options I get when hitting the power button aren't really sleep modes, imho...the unit is still on and the screen wakes with any tap.
The fact that the processor isn't turned off in sleep mode, doesn't matter much, as the OMAP has some pretty nifty power saving settings on board.
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2007-01-20
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Could some N800-owner pls explain to us non-N800-people what "Lock touchscreen and keys" really does on an N800? There are so many contradictory reports here: Some say it really locks the screen so it doesn't wake at all (see Karel above), others report it behaves axactly as on the 770: Screen is only slightly dimmed and responds to every touch by telling you how to unlock the device again. (The latter option of course isn't much help when it comes to power saving)
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2007-01-20
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Originally Posted by benny1967
If it helps, my display settings are:
Could some N800-owner pls explain to us non-N800-people what "Lock touchscreen and keys" really does on an N800? There are so many contradictory reports here: Some say it really locks the screen so it doesn't wake at all (see Karel above), others report it behaves axactly as on the 770: Screen is only slightly dimmed and responds to every touch by telling you how to unlock the device again. (The latter option of course isn't much help when it comes to power saving)
- Brightness period: 2 minutes
- Switch off display: 2 minutes
- Lock screen and keys: unchecked
- Show LED lights: unchecked
(I uncheck "Lock screen and keys", because it's too much a hassle to go through the power-Dpad-cycle when I'm reading)
(I uncheck the LEDs, because... well, just because obviously)
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2007-01-20
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The screen/button lock prohibits input from accidental button presses, but the
screen backlight still turns on with contact/keypresses. I can't imagine that's good for the battery...especially because it's easy for it to happen when it's in its soft case in your pocket. The flip case might help with this, whenever Nokia decides to release it.
The MobileCrunch review yesterday mentioned the "instant on" feature.
screen backlight still turns on with contact/keypresses. I can't imagine that's good for the battery...especially because it's easy for it to happen when it's in its soft case in your pocket. The flip case might help with this, whenever Nokia decides to release it.
The MobileCrunch review yesterday mentioned the "instant on" feature.
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2007-01-20
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Originally Posted by crackhead
This is what the 770 does when you lock the screen; of course this doesn't come near a powersaving function, let alone some "instant on" feature (which would, of course, require some kind of "off" before
The screen/button lock prohibits input from accidental button presses, but the screen backlight still turns on with contact/keypresses.
).What seems to be missing is a way to have the screen/button-lock turn the screen completely off as well until you remove the cov-... oh...
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2007-01-20
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The menu displayed when the power button is pressed is an xml file ( /etc/systemui/systemui.xml ). This file has 2 entries commented out "Soft poweroff" and "Reboot". They can be ordered with the priority setting. "Soft poweroff" shuts off the display and keys completely but does not switch off comms. This needs to be done first.
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2007-01-20
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Originally Posted by benny1967
It dimms and locks the screen. The screen will still respond to touches by telling how to unlock it. But after the 'switch display off' time has passed (which is set under display settings), the whole display will switch off and the only thing the device responds to, is the power button (again telling you how to unlock).
Could some N800-owner pls explain to us non-N800-people what "Lock touchscreen and keys" really does on an N800?
Am I missing something? The lock options I get when hitting the power button aren't really sleep modes, imho...the unit is still on and the screen wakes with any tap.