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Karel Jansens |
2007-01-20
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#11
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Originally Posted by zuti
It doesn't do that on my N800, or even on my 770. Tapping "Lock touchscreen and keys" immediately (well, after a quick fade-out) dims the screen and nothing, except the power button, reacts anymore. My display off setting is 2 minutes.
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2007-01-20
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Just tried, on my N800 it works exactly as described by Karel Jansens, on my 770 things are as described by Zuti.
It sounds the way the two devices should work, indeed. On 770 if I like to pause I can just put the hard cover on, on the 800 such a method is not available and the more logical way is to lock the screen and let it not respond to any form of reaction, because it is too simple to activate it with accidental pressures.
BTW IMHO from the point of view of energy saving and battery lasting Nokians are way ahed of competitors.
It sounds the way the two devices should work, indeed. On 770 if I like to pause I can just put the hard cover on, on the 800 such a method is not available and the more logical way is to lock the screen and let it not respond to any form of reaction, because it is too simple to activate it with accidental pressures.
BTW IMHO from the point of view of energy saving and battery lasting Nokians are way ahed of competitors.
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2007-01-20
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#13
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Ah. I got it! It's because you have your brightness period and switch off period both set to two minutes. I have brightness for 2 minutes, and switch off in 5 minutes. If I set both to the same amount of minutes, the display and device will lock immediately.
It doesn't do that on my N800, or even on my 770. Tapping "Lock touchscreen and keys" immediately (well, after a quick fade-out) dims the screen and nothing, except the power button, reacts anymore. My display off setting is 2 minutes.
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2007-01-20
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Originally Posted by zuti
You got it! I just tried and can confirm that's the way it works.
Ah. I got it! It's because you have your brightness period and switch off period both set to two minutes. I have brightness for 2 minutes, and switch off in 5 minutes. If I set both to the same amount of minutes, the display and device will lock immediately.
Congrs for your keen eye
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2007-01-20
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#15
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Originally Posted by rcull
So I can edit the file to enable these settings (presumably as root)? Sounds promising!
The menu displayed when the power button is pressed is an xml file ( /etc/systemui/systemui.xml ). This file has 2 entries commented out "Soft poweroff" and "Reboot". They can be ordered with the priority setting. "Soft poweroff" shuts off the display and keys completely but does not switch off comms. This needs to be done first.
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2007-01-20
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Originally Posted by zuti
There you go.
Ah. I got it! It's because you have your brightness period and switch off period both set to two minutes. I have brightness for 2 minutes, and switch off in 5 minutes. If I set both to the same amount of minutes, the display and device will lock immediately.
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2007-01-20
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Just wanted to report that adding those entries back to systemui.xml works beautifully. Now I have a "soft" poweroff, which requires a press of the powerbutton to wake it again...instantly, I might add. NICE.
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2007-01-21
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
I talk about instant-on all the time. The above is what I am referring to. There is no such thing as a REAL Instant On with this as computers are either "off" which require boot time or "sleeping" - Are you referring to this article of mine?
I never shut off my 770 before and I don't shut off my N800 now. I just hit the power button and select "Lock touchscreen and keys" (actually, it's just power button, followed by center D-pad button. It's amazing how quickly this has become an automatism). The screen doesn't wake at all (it's locked, remember?) and I have set my WiFi to disconnect after 5 minutes.
The fact that the processor isn't turned off in sleep mode, doesn't matter much, as the OMAP has some pretty nifty power saving settings on board.
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2007-01-21
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Originally Posted by zuti
This has to be a bug. The screen switches off only when the the brightness and switch off periods are the same, if the periods are different then the screen does not switch off!
Ah. I got it! It's because you have your brightness period and switch off period both set to two minutes. I have brightness for 2 minutes, and switch off in 5 minutes. If I set both to the same amount of minutes, the display and device will lock immediately.
Bug #959 raised for this defect.
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2007-01-21
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#20
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
I don't think it's a bug: When you select "Lock screen and keys", you essentially override the brightness down setting. My guess is that the OS then deducts the brightness down setting from the off setting and starts the count down from then. I.e.: With brightness down set at 2 minutes and screen off at 5 minutes, it would take 3 minutes before the screen is locked. The N800 simply assumes that you'll allways want that 3 minute lag.
This has to be a bug. The screen switches off only when the the brightness and switch off periods are the same, if the periods are different then the screen does not switch off!
Bug #959 raised for this defect.