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2010-02-12
, 21:39
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I started using linux when i got my first computer. A friend recommended it. By then it was not mature and you needed to be some sort of hacker. I did Red Hat and Mandrake longest. Today though, i think linux is easier than anything els. I have been a Ubuntu fan since Hoary, been dualbooting until Feisty and are now running linux only.
Until Feisty Fawn Ubuntu had some shortcoming on the driver side. That is not as relevant now. I am running ATI legacy without problems. In fact it runs better now than when i used the proprietary.
My brother who are in to music bought an Vista. I have always talked how nice Ubuntu is and when Vista broke a year after he asked me to fix it. I asked if he wanted to test run Ubuntu and he said okey. He wanted win7 too so i made a dualboot for him. Since then he have been using Ubuntu. Never ever bothered with win7. He got some strange equipment for recording and stuff. I did not think he would be able to use them... but to my astonishment they worked out of the box. As sound editor he uses Audacity who are more then enough for him.
Also my father and a couple of friends have changed to Ubuntu.
The only thing that did not work well was a poker client for my brother. The characters in the client look strange under wine. But he just swapped to another client.
"How can you format and have a running system under half an hour?"
-I am running linux
"I wish i could have my computer system here"
-you can
"How?"
-Running linux trough your usb-pen.
Until Feisty Fawn Ubuntu had some shortcoming on the driver side. That is not as relevant now. I am running ATI legacy without problems. In fact it runs better now than when i used the proprietary.
My brother who are in to music bought an Vista. I have always talked how nice Ubuntu is and when Vista broke a year after he asked me to fix it. I asked if he wanted to test run Ubuntu and he said okey. He wanted win7 too so i made a dualboot for him. Since then he have been using Ubuntu. Never ever bothered with win7. He got some strange equipment for recording and stuff. I did not think he would be able to use them... but to my astonishment they worked out of the box. As sound editor he uses Audacity who are more then enough for him.
Also my father and a couple of friends have changed to Ubuntu.
The only thing that did not work well was a poker client for my brother. The characters in the client look strange under wine. But he just swapped to another client.
"How can you format and have a running system under half an hour?"
-I am running linux
"I wish i could have my computer system here"
-you can
"How?"
-Running linux trough your usb-pen.
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2010-02-12
, 21:42
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@ Canada
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
ahaha!! men that is the reason im having a good time with this device.
Because Virus', trojans, spyware, malware, don't mess up windows - right?
Uh.. no. Actually if you know how to use Linux - you almost never need to reflash. With root, you can fix almost any problem - including a 100% full rootfs, without a reflash... unless you manage to remove everything in your root.
So... yeah. But you can blame linux if it helps you sleep at night ..
its like, "i messed with it, i need to fix it" im like a noob computer programmer
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2010-02-12
, 21:54
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@ Finland
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After win xp sp2 and also vista none of my friends have managed to mess their system. I have win xp running and have reinstalled it only two times after it first release (2001?). Reason for those were that my hardware was completely changed.
So I do not completely understand people who manage to f up their windows system and claim that it slows down over time.
I also have pclos installed but rarely boot up to it because i have huge issue with 1024x768 resolution and gnome/kde pixel usage efficiency on programs. Just too much spacing everywhere. Also I miss explorer.exe kind of integration trough out whole system (open/save dialog windows with mouse right click menu and whole package) so it could be that i´m beyond point of going away my dear windows
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Actually only thing that I would like to take from linux and put on windows is multitasking efficiency. Windows also seems to go completely halt with network connection issues. But still these are little issues for me.
Last edited by slender; 2010-02-12 at 21:56.
So I do not completely understand people who manage to f up their windows system and claim that it slows down over time.
I also have pclos installed but rarely boot up to it because i have huge issue with 1024x768 resolution and gnome/kde pixel usage efficiency on programs. Just too much spacing everywhere. Also I miss explorer.exe kind of integration trough out whole system (open/save dialog windows with mouse right click menu and whole package) so it could be that i´m beyond point of going away my dear windows
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Actually only thing that I would like to take from linux and put on windows is multitasking efficiency. Windows also seems to go completely halt with network connection issues. But still these are little issues for me.
Last edited by slender; 2010-02-12 at 21:56.
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2010-02-12
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@ North Texas, USA
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Originally Posted by slender
I haven't effed up mine but it still slows down over time. It's a well-known issue usually due to the inability of Windows to properly deal with updates and uninstalls. Legacy crap accumulates and bogs the system down. In addition, the MS defrag tool is not very effective.
So I do not completely understand people who manage to f up their windows system and claim that it slows down over time.
Originally Posted by slender
THAT is my number one problem at home and work. Network activity periodically "takes over", rendering the machine inoperable sometimes for minutes at a time. This has occurred on various Windows versions, PC/laptop types, etc. But I have never witnessed this insanity on Ubuntu, nor do I expect to.
Actually only thing that I would like to take from linux and put on windows is multitasking efficiency. Windows also seems to go completely halt with network connection issues. But still these are little issues for me.
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2010-02-12
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Originally Posted by ruskie
Apparently you overlooked the word "decent".
Of the top of my head: festival, espeak
Have you tried listening to any novels using festival or espeak? No, because text to speech is really crappy, computerllike voices, lousy pronunciation, right?
That's not text-to-speech, that's Linux. Go to www.textaloud.com and listen to samples and compare them to Linux text to speech. There is no comparison.
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2010-02-12
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@ Switzerland
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Maybe not, but Linux doesn't even have one (They wanted to create one for ext4, but I don't think it has been released yet). If you're a bit scarce on disk space, this is really an issue.
In addition, the MS defrag tool is not very effective.
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2010-02-12
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@ Finland
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Hmm. I haven't installed/uninstalled programs a lot lately. Everything happens between couple of programs and my browser+online. Only updates keep coming from windows server. Also i haven't used AV software for years and have used windwos own firewall for years also. Maybe it's because of my browsing habits (opera + firefox + common sense) but this system just keeps on going
I haven't effed up mine but it still slows down over time. It's a well-known issue usually due to the inability of Windows to properly deal with updates and uninstalls. Legacy crap accumulates and bogs the system down. In addition, the MS defrag tool is not very effective.
And yes official defrag sucks. If you have time take a look at this:
http://www.mydefrag.com/
THAT is my number one problem at home and work. Network activity periodically "takes over", rendering the machine inoperable sometimes for minutes at a time. This has occurred on various Windows versions, PC/laptop types, etc. But I have never witnessed this insanity on Ubuntu, nor do I expect to.
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2010-02-14
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History:
I first started using Linux for a few reasons, but the two main ones were that I like to tinker with, and have full control over my computers, and that I was just bored and annoyed with Windows. Now, I respect Windows for what it does well, but it just doesn't suit me. I quickly realized that one of the strengths of Open Source is that anyone can add a feature that's useful to them, without usually having to worry about budget, priorities, or sales (at least, not nearly as much, at some levels). The upshot of that is that some of my main annoyances with Windows are the tons of little things that MS didn't bother doing, or decided not to. Window manager features are a good example of this.
Anyhow, the main reason I love the N900 is that its Open nature leads to all manner of awesome hacks. To get back to the original spirit of the thread, consider the following:
Nokia has donated several N900s to my university for research, and as such, we had to perform a demo at a University-Relations event at the local Nokia office. We were not ready, despite staying up far too late for a couple of weeks. Between a friend and I, we managed to pull off the demo, but I was coding until about 5 minutes prior to our slot. The point of this? I had no laptop - I was on my N900, logged into a build VM located on my roommate's server across the city, hacking on our demo application, then compiling and copying it back to the phone over the Internet for testing. Sure, it wasn't terribly fun, but the very fact that I could do that was a "wow" for me.
Also, fully-working or not, find me another cell phone that can run a PBX locally!
I first started using Linux for a few reasons, but the two main ones were that I like to tinker with, and have full control over my computers, and that I was just bored and annoyed with Windows. Now, I respect Windows for what it does well, but it just doesn't suit me. I quickly realized that one of the strengths of Open Source is that anyone can add a feature that's useful to them, without usually having to worry about budget, priorities, or sales (at least, not nearly as much, at some levels). The upshot of that is that some of my main annoyances with Windows are the tons of little things that MS didn't bother doing, or decided not to. Window manager features are a good example of this.
Anyhow, the main reason I love the N900 is that its Open nature leads to all manner of awesome hacks. To get back to the original spirit of the thread, consider the following:
Nokia has donated several N900s to my university for research, and as such, we had to perform a demo at a University-Relations event at the local Nokia office. We were not ready, despite staying up far too late for a couple of weeks. Between a friend and I, we managed to pull off the demo, but I was coding until about 5 minutes prior to our slot. The point of this? I had no laptop - I was on my N900, logged into a build VM located on my roommate's server across the city, hacking on our demo application, then compiling and copying it back to the phone over the Internet for testing. Sure, it wasn't terribly fun, but the very fact that I could do that was a "wow" for me.
Also, fully-working or not, find me another cell phone that can run a PBX locally!
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2010-02-14
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Originally Posted by gidoca
I was under the impression that even ext2 (which is not even journaling) didn't have much of a problem with fragmentation (not to speak of more advanced filesystems).
Maybe not, but Linux doesn't even have one (They wanted to create one for ext4, but I don't think it has been released yet). If you're a bit scarce on disk space, this is really an issue.
And unless the FS is totally braindead (why hello; FAT...) there is not much space to be regained by defragmenting, but speed due to being able to read whole files sequentially versus having the heads jump around for the blocks.
Google got me http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/ind..._defragmenting which has also some usefull comments.
just like a the popular quote from a popular movie: "with great power.. come great responsibility".... sorry I just can't help it.