Crashdamage | # 81 | 2010-02-21, 13:35 | Report

It is. There's nothing else quite like it. Or any other mobile OS like Maemo/MeeGo.

No, they (Jaaski, actually) said:
"We will absolutely not forget N900 users and developers...If you are an N900 owner (or an owner wannabee) this is all good for you...All the MeeGo and Qt momentum will give you many more interesting applications to run on N900. Now and in the future."

That doesn't sound like 'Oops, the N900/Maemo is crap, you're outta luck' to me. Sounds more like 'If you have a N900 you're good to go for quite a while. in fact, we think the N900/Maemo is such an awesome start that 2 of the biggest companies in the world have partnered up and bet the farm that MeeGo can be the dominant OS for high-end mobile devices in the future.'

So you're against progress? You would rather they didn't do it better?

Everywhere.

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Crashdamage | # 82 | 2010-02-21, 13:41 | Report

A totally unrealistic statement if I ever heard one. Have you ever used any device or software 1/10 as complicated as the N900/Maemo that ever had ALL the bugs fixed?

Go ahead...name one...

tso | # 83 | 2010-02-21, 13:44 | Report

nope, but i have seen at least one that got bugs introduced at the last update before abandonment...

lma | # 84 | 2010-02-21, 13:58 | Report

Nope, http://www.google.com/search?q=site%...t+%23maemo+pr2 just gives a recursive

Let's say that for the time being we've only heard about PR1.3 with any degree of certainty.

GeneralAntilles | # 85 | 2010-02-21, 14:08 | Report

Let's just say I trust my sources.

mlb | # 86 | 2010-02-21, 14:25 | Report

It really sounds like wishful thinking - unless you are authorised to speak for Nokia.

Crashdamage | # 87 | 2010-02-21, 14:56 | Report

Of course I'm not. I've just paid some attention to what has actually been said by those who know :

a. Real Intel and Nokia reps like qgil, Jaaski, etc. etc,
b. People in the Maemo community actually in communication with Nokia and involved in development like the OP of this thread, and...
c. "2 of the biggest companies in the world (who) have partnered up and bet the farm that MeeGo can be the dominant OS for high-end mobile devices in the future."

I took all that, applied a little common sense and decided I'll take their word for what the truth is over blind speculation by chronically depressed naysayers until I see some real evidence otherwise. So far, I don't. My N900 works great, is about to get it's 4th OTA update in 3 months, Maemo lives on bigger and better as MeeGo and I'm all smiles.

danielpublic | # 88 | 2010-02-21, 14:59 | Report

As already stated in the OP and besides what Crashdamage said, the N900 is a computer that somehow justed got banged up with a phone in the manufacturing process.

If you understand that, then you see there is no need for worries of that kind. Since we got drivers and a nice warm and fussy carebear community right here :3

For anyone else who want to learn what linux how it works and is all about, I recommend installing gentoo or arch on a SPARE computer and have fun!

Then you see the potential freedom which the N900 has AND understand that:

1: " I can do so much stuff with thiss computer/phone"
2: " Reach out to the community and we WILL be there and have all the lovin for all of ours N900 "

mlb | # 89 | 2010-02-21, 15:36 | Report

Of course N900 is very flexible and this great community can empower it with tons of useful software.
However - look at that from commercial point of view: What makes N900 attractive to potential buyers? Open source community? I do not think so. It is important for current users, but not as guarantee of product robustness and lifetime support. And so for 3rd party software vendors.

My point is: lack of Nokia statement of long time support for N900 seriously weakens product placement on the market, both from potential users and 3rd party software vendors point of view. I do not believe in success of N900 if based *only* on open source solutions. I do believe in success of blended open source and commercial apps platform - but here Nokia does not seem to be excited, they'd rather go for MeeGo yet without guarantee of backward compatibility with N900.

TheLongshot | # 90 | 2010-02-21, 16:34 | Report

Was there anything in Nokia's past history of in talk about the future that it would be otherwise? The nice thing about the MeeGo deal is that it might actually break that pattern. It might not benefit N900 users directly, but it will help indirectly at the very least.

Again, nothing has really changed, other than the future of the next generation OS is going to be brighter. Personally, that's good news overall. While it falls short of saying "M6 will be on the N900" (which you weren't expecting anyways), you do get that both OSs will have the new QT libraries on it, which means there can be a lot of cross-development at the minimum.

I don't know what any of this has to do with hardware issues. Personally, I have none.

Assuming that Nokia has a definitive answer to give at this point. M6/Meego might not be locked down as far as features goes. This agreement might reinforce that view with the integration and compatibility with Moblin.

This isn't unique to Nokia. There are certain Android phones (Cliq, G1) where there were questions if and when updates to their OSs would happen. At the very least, we know one update will happen and there will at least be another.

I think really it is a question of hardware, since I think the reasoning Nokia didn't make versions for the N810 and N800 was because they didn't have the juice to run the OS. Maybe that's one of the things the OP ran into with Mer. (I haven't read up onto the whys about how they were being too aggressive.)

I'm not going to stress over the waiting to see if Nokia is going to give us Meego or not for the device. Personally, I enjoy using it. In the meantime, I hope that between the user community and Nokia that eventually all the flaws will be addressed in one way or another.