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Milhouse is offline Milhouse
2007-02-19 , 19:05
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I think the mobile phone market in the US is different to that in Europe and the UK - subsidies may not be so popular in the US for instance, and the carriers (network providers) seem to like crippling the phones more than we experience over here (I'm not aware of any network provider disabling DUN for example - that would be, like, insane).

If I lived in the US, I'd most likely buy a SIM free phone of my choice which hasn't been crippled by any network provider.
 
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YoDude is offline YoDude
2007-02-19 , 20:27
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Originally Posted by Arjun View Post
By developing and introducing the Nokia 770 and N800 ITs, Nokia gave the option of using Bluetooth and Wi-Fi to its Users. Using the Phone as ' tethered Bluetooth Modem ', was something that its User Community figured out ( because first of all, if all the phones could be used as tethered Bluetooth Modems then things would have been really easy.

Secondly, even before the advent of Nokia Internet Tablets, some of the Phone Service Providers were already blocking the use of the phones ( bonded to them ) as tethered Bluetooth Modems, by crippling the DUN.

T-Mobile, for example does not ' totally ' support the use of Bluetooth enabled phones as tethered Modems. Cingular charges extra to use the phones ( branded by them ) as tethered Bluetooth Modems.

Since both the Nokia ITs have Bluetooth and Wi-Fi ( and now even FM Radio ), I feel that the onus of the getting a phone that can be used properly with these Tablets is on the User.
However... When you go to the N800's dialer you will find that it itself is "crippled". You can only select numbers, the letters 'P' and 'W', and just the characters '#' and '*'; I believe.

I use an iDEN phone by Motorola (Nextel). iDEN has an always on internet connection for packet data which it uses for it's "Net Alert", voice mail notification, and other carrier specific services. In order to access this small pipe (about 24k), I need to send the dial up string "s=2" in a Hayes compatible format.

I can not do that with the N800.
I can easily do this with my WinMo 2003, PPC.
It's not fast but hey it's free... and it is just fast enough to update a feed reader, traffic cams, weather info, and most importantly; a Maemo Map when I'm a stranger in a strange land... The things I need most while on the go.

BTW, using a prepaid, BT, iDEN phone (Boost) works just as well and will give you access for only a $20 recharge every 90 days.

If Nokia provided this ability (s=2) or a third party BT dialer is developed, I am positive US sales would increase.

I'm sure I will be able to eventually hack this as I learn more but it may have to be at a binary level. Osso does not seam to reveal the dial up number.

Finding a restricted dialer in the N800 was the last thing I expected.
 
freeman is offline freeman
2007-02-19 , 21:40
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Em, why don't you just say there isn't any pcmcia slot.
Just in case there is no wifi/bluetooth, you can you your PCMCIA ethernet card.
Just in case there is no wifi/bluetooth/ethernet, you can you your PCMCIA firewire card.
Just in case there is no wifi/bluetooth/ethernet/firewire, you can you your PCMCIA modem card.
Just in case there is no wifi/bluetooth/ethernet/firewire/POTS_line, you can you your PCMCIA ISDN card.
Just in case there is no wifi/bluetooth/ethernet/firewire/POTS_line/ISDN, you can you your PCMCIA fiber card.
Just in case there is no wifi/bluetooth/ethernet/firewire/POTS_line/ISDN/fiber, you can you your PCMCIA GPRS card.
Just in case there is no wifi/bluetooth/ethernet/firewire/POTS_line/ISDN/fiber/GPRS, you can you your PCMCIA EVDO card.

I'm very sure this is a lot more flexible than having an extra RJ45 slot on the n800.
 
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