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schettj | # 61 | 2010-03-24, 22:53 | Report

Originally Posted by nilchak View Post

as a layman - not introduced to Unix/Linux even the GNU will ne very much unclear to a user. Its only the Unix geeks who understand what is GNU.

GNU is Not Unix.

Apparently, you don't understand Google either.

You type in something, and hit enter. Then The Google Answers. It's like talking to God, except Google is more evil.

Fargus | # 62 | 2010-03-24, 22:55 | Report

Originally Posted by bandora View Post

1. I have both music on MyDocs and on a 2GB microSD card.

2. I have about 200 songs...

Can you post the make and ideally series of SD Card? Cheaper cards tend to have slower response times which can make a big difference in an already busy setup.

The other thought: do you have facebook widgets and lots of IM running as well? I seem to recall the facebook widget eating resource at one point.

egoshin | # 63 | 2010-03-24, 22:57 | Report

Originally Posted by ndi View Post

Nice post, but it's not that complex, really (regarding stuttering), they just need to up the priority (Linux users: lower niceness) of the media player and sound subsystem.

Unfortunately it is not enough. renderer and browser sizes may easily reach 100MB and it can take a couple of seconds to swap out one of them.

BTW, for some reason that real time processes are use the same scheduler and doesn't use real-time priorities... the minimum "nice" is -11, sometime -5 but RT priorities starts from -20.

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egoshin | # 64 | 2010-03-24, 22:59 | Report

Originally Posted by Devrim View Post

My N900 has only been up for 1 day.

Tracker, I believe. Test again next day.

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egoshin | # 65 | 2010-03-24, 23:05 | Report

Originally Posted by makkan00 View Post

I have observed music player freezing when opening ovi maps while listening to music.
I surfed the internet, yes sometime it halts the music.

My music is saved on 32 gb and not more than 12 tracks.

N900 has only 256MB of RAM and music player (actually - renderer) and MAPS both are BIG crocodiles. You just open a swap hell for around 5-10-12secs and that halts music.

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Jef91 | # 66 | 2010-03-24, 23:24 | Report

Sorry for being off topic - but for all those saying they never hear any music stuttering - did you do anything special to fix this? I've all my N900 fully up to date and my music player does indeed skip quiet often while multi-tasking with simple things...

~Jeff

geneven | # 67 | 2010-03-24, 23:34 | Report

Originally Posted by bbin View Post

couple of questions for those who are not experiencing stuttering audio:

1. where are your audio files stored? microsd or internal mem?

2. how big is your audio collection on the device?

My main audio listening is to The Economist, which releases its entire weekly magazine (which is pretty large) in spoken word format. I store The Economist download either on the 16 gb microsd card I have or on internal memory, and it doesn't make any difference -- in neither case do I perceive any stuttering. even though I multitask as much as I want, without thinking about it, while listening.

I also listen to Internet Radio, and I do have problems with it sometimes. I attribute those problems to bandwidth issues not having anything to do with the N900, but to Time Warner Cable or to the radio station broadcasting over the net.

I know from many years playing chess on ICC and FICS that even low-bandwith usage such as sending chess moves over the net, it is not unusual at all for various internet problems to affect transmission.

Laughing Man | # 68 | 2010-03-25, 00:39 | Report

Originally Posted by egoshin View Post

N900 has only 256MB of RAM and music player (actually - renderer) and MAPS both are BIG crocodiles. You just open a swap hell for around 5-10-12secs and that halts music.

Best way to halt the N900 is to update podcasts in gpodder, and rss feeds in feedingit at the same time.

I've also found the N900 has the occasional skip when using GPS related software (Ovi Maps, Mapper, Google Maps in microB) and panucci at the same time.

Alex Atkin UK | # 69 | 2010-03-25, 00:42 | Report

Originally Posted by ndi View Post

Nice post, but it's not that complex, really (regarding stuttering), they just need to up the priority (Linux users: lower niceness) of the media player and sound subsystem. If a war breaks out between a web page and the media player, I want media player to win, because I can't notice 0.1 seconds delay in a web page, but I can win media player.

Also, given how buffers work, I don't think it's a player fault - a player freeze would give less quirks with longer recovery time. I think it's the sound subsystem (or whatever you have replacing an audio driver/mixer).

Ah yes but its never that simple is it.

When I had problems on desktop Linux with sound stuttering when loading web pages, cranking alsa and mplayer to a higher priority than the web browser did nothing to help the situation.

Even now I have stuttering of the flurry screensaver if I leave a web page open refreshing in the background, I cranked flurry to the highest priority and it still happens, just not quite as bad but still annoying.

There are so many layers of processes that can be causing trouble, surely if it was simple Nokia would have already fixed it before launch?

SubCore | # 70 | 2010-03-25, 00:55 | Report

Originally Posted by Devrim View Post

I started a FLAC (CD rip) in the default player and opened up the browser.

i'd say that the audio codec used is the main reason for stuttering.

there's quite a difference between a lossless codec and a 224 kbit/s mp3 in terms of throughput needed

i have had no problems with 2-3 browsers loading simultaneously while playing music, and i mostly have mp3s.

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