Reflektorfalke | # 281 | 2010-04-28, 20:28 | Report

Now I was able to check a favourite...
However its tricky and impossible with fingers.
And its possible enter text into the checkbox cell.
Checking more than one checkbox is also possible - should be only one!?

Congrats to Milan to make it to the final - too bad your team is going to loose it Magnuslu

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Reflektorfalke | # 282 | 2010-04-28, 20:46 | Report

My congrats Magnuslu, its great to see how your app gets better and better!!!

Again, here are some notes, suggestions, ideas, feedback from me.
As I got to know you, you already have most or all on your to-do list ;-)

General:
- Buttons aligned central/middle within the black boxes (grey area when active) would be nice.
- As described in a earlier thread, I think that possibly combining the matches/downloaded matches into one screen might provide better usability and less confusion for users
(same applies for table/downloaded table)
- Can you make an additional menu bar on the right (bottom for portrait mode) for the in screen buttons (add, remove, download). I think the screen is big enough for that and provides better usability!?

Scrolling:
Scrollbars are not finger friendly or maybe unnecessary as at least I prefer in screen scrolling

Select:
- I think the kinetic scrolling is somewhat too sensible, it tends to jump through the list too fast.
- I miss CL/WC semi finals/finals etc. in the list

Favourites:
I assume the small (very small ;-) ) checkboxes are for selecting the default league, doesn´t work for me

Table:
- When no league selected/loaded, a bright green screen appears
- Scrollling only with scrollbar but not within the screen

Matches:
- Scrollling only with scrollbar but not within the screen
- Instead of the blue borders I would prefer another layout, e.g. no borders at all, only two boxes (one for the 2 clubs, one for the result) or a layout similar to the table layout

Downloaded:
- Letters with 2 dots above (ä,ö,ü) are not shown correctly (they are in the other screens)
- Are the thin blue borders around the data area intentional?

I hope I described everything understandable, too tired to think ;-)

silvermountain | # 283 | 2010-04-28, 22:03 | Report

Installed the latest Diablo version.
Running it from the menu - nothing happens.
Running it from xterm - SQLIte errors.

magnuslu | # 284 | 2010-04-29, 00:04 | Report

I've looked at this. By default Qt adds a 'text' to the icon. I have read somewhere about a solution to this, but have yet to implement it.

Yeah... At the moment I am more focusing on providing functionality. I will polish the whole thing at a later stage.

Good idea! I'll consider.

I've looked at this as well, but decided to wait and see what PR1.2/Qt4.6 will bring automatically.

Oh yes! Again, in Qt4.6 I think it is possible to set the fingerscrolling sensitivity, so I'll look at that again. Well, maybe it is possible in Qt4.5 as well, but I didn't look at that possibility.

I miss them too! Seems they're not available in the SoccerDb. I'm considering setting up my own 'SoccerDb' for knockout stages kind of tournaments...


Yeah... More stylus than fingerfriendly. It does work for me though, once I've selected something.

Again.. Waiting for Qt4.6. I'm not saying it can only be solved in that version, but it might be easier, so I postponed that fix.

See above.

This is due to my limited knowledge about CSS... Either the community waits for me to learn more about CSS (given my release plans, that could be months away...), or it contributes some nice stylesheets to use

I noticed this when I downloaded the Bundesliga and the Swedish Allsvenskan. It's a matter of encoding the data I download from SoccerDb. I just didn't look into it yet.

No. Could be due to a misalignment of the widget on the screen?

Well done! And keep them coming!

I'll add a few more:
Downloaded Tables:
The sorting of the teams is actually not in 'numerical', but 'alphabetical' order, this means that if a league has a team with
10 poins and one with 9 points, the latter will be shown on top.
Sometimes the columns are too small to display the text/number, so you only see '...'.

Downloaded Games:
The sorting should be alphabetical on home team, but it is on number of goals scored by the home team.
I will try to find a better way to select what round to view.
Tip here though. Once focus is on the number of rounds, you can very quickly go from one round to the other by pressing the up and down arrow keys on the keyboard.

And something I noticed... Actually the 'online matches' do display 'real-time' results, provided someone updates through the SoccerDB site. Anyway, I am still looking at finding a proper 'real-time' data provider...

magnuslu | # 285 | 2010-04-29, 00:10 | Report

Yeah... More stylus friendly. I'll see if I can increase the size, although it is said that in Qt4.6, the 'clickable area' for widgets is expanded, so maybe it will get resolved automagically?

Hmm... That's a side effect of making the checkbox editable... I'll have to look into that.

I haven't made up my mind on this. It is possible to have multiple because I have not prevented it. The idea is that when multiple are selected, you would see the results for all those leagues at startup. This is not yet implemented.

Ahem... We call it just Inter, Milan is the city and the friendly neighbouring team. That'll be one more sleepless night in Singapore!

anapospastos | # 286 | 2010-04-29, 09:45 | Report

Gratz for this app. Is in your future plans to have the downloaded data for offline use?

Reflektorfalke | # 287 | 2010-04-29, 10:03 | Report

I can confirm the column width issue, but not the sorting issue!?

SoccerDB definitly has some downsides that make some nice and as I think important features impossible:

- real-time results can have a delay or be not available at all due to its community provided approach. I think this is not really acceptable if the app is supposed to provide real-time / live scores
- match details (who scored, red/yellow cards, player changes, timeline...) are not available at all. This makes a nice live ticker feature with auto-update / push and alert functionality impossible
- match times seem to be not available at all while even dates are not available (/ shown?) in the downloaded data. Calendar integration impossible.
- knockout stages not available...

Considering these facts (and whatever I might have missed in my list ;-) ) I think finding a new or additional data source that provides the desired details is one crucial point to get this app to a certain level.

2 more things I noted:
In the downloaded tabs, there is also an encoding problem for some spanish chars.
There is a small question mark at the bottom of the screens...future surprise feature?

Reflektorfalke | # 288 | 2010-04-29, 10:09 | Report

The two tabs from the right are for downloading data and offline use.
Tap the secon tab from right, there is a small "download" buttons.
Cick this one to download match and table data for the currently selected league/year.

magnuslu | # 289 | 2010-04-29, 11:04 | Report

That's because you probably only have downloaded leagues where even the last team has more than 10 points as most leagues are at the end of the season. Try Sweden/Allsvenskan or Singapore/S.League and you'll see what I mean.


Trust me... This is one of my top priorities... But now you'll be wondering what my other top priorities are...

Yup... Anthing non 'standard' ASCII will hit it.

Oh, I'll reveal another problem. Portsmouth has had 9 points deducted in the Premier League. SoccerDB has this data, but I am currently ignoring it...

Yeah... I tried something, but it didn't work. As it didn't cause any harm either, I've left it there until such time when I can relook at it again...

Reflektorfalke | # 290 | 2010-04-29, 16:43 | Report

Haha, no worries, I sure do trust you - why shouldn´t I you are doing an awesome job here ;-)

Not only by now, but ever since you came up with these surprise features things