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2010-06-14 , 14:23
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
@Tedri: Ok, I understand your enormous hatred for Apple and everything it represents You may not care about the facts of your arguments anyway..
I really do, don't I? I think it's the big suckering people in I don't like...
(Although I am considering getting a beefy mac to run serato Video SL. Seems it's the only configuration consistent enough for them to say "Yes, this will work flawlessly" )

Originally Posted by ysss View Post
ps: background downloading is supported by Apple's implementation of multitasking.... also, there were actually a few well backed researches that proved that the way people multitask on their computer actually makes them less productive than if they sit and focus on one thing at a time.
I will vouch for that fact. Without multitasking I would probably have shut down firefox and cracked on with the bit of Actionscript that I was planning to have finished today.. But that's not the kind of multitasking I'm talking about. I don't need to 'concentrate' on downloading a massive .rar when I could be working at the same time...

Are apple products good? Definitely. Are they the technical revolution they generally purport to be? I'm not convinced..
 
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2010-06-14 , 14:24
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At the end of the day
Heheheh, love that gif...
 
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2010-06-14 , 14:32
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#63
Originally Posted by Tedri Mark View Post
I really do, don't I? I think it's the big suckering people in I don't like...
(Although I am considering getting a beefy mac to run serato Video SL. Seems it's the only configuration consistent enough for them to say "Yes, this will work flawlessly" )
People that can be suckered by Apple's marketing... aren't interested to learn more about 'the magic' behind the curtain anyway. They use a different metric to make decisions on their computer/gadget/appliances purchase.
That don't bother me.. as long as people get what they expect out of their purchases and happy about it past the unboxing stage

I will vouch for that fact. Without multitasking I would probably have shut down firefox and cracked on with the bit of Actionscript that I was planning to have finished today.. But that's not the kind of multitasking I'm talking about.
Yes, it's really easy to get sidetracked in these days n age. Truly information overload everywhere we turn. But that's not what those researches were talking about either.

I don't need to 'concentrate' on downloading a massive .rar when I could be working at the same time...
Yes, that's one of the main reason I jailbroke all my iphones. To background download tasks, maintain active ssh/vnc/rdp connections and listen to streamed audio. Luckily, the multitasking implemention in iOS4 supports background downloading and audio/voip streaming, among other things.

Are apple products good? Definitely. Are they the technical revolution they generally purport to be? I'm not convinced..
I think most knowledgeable people will attribute apple as successful in ui and form design, above technical revolutionaries.
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I think most knowledgeable people will attribute apple as successful in ui and form design, above technical revolutionaries.
Apple creates products that you want to use time and time again AND want to tell your friends about it.

It has nothing to do with users not knowing alternatives or not being as knowledgeable.

They will never let a product to market with as many deficiencies as the n900. Much less not support it after its release. Step 1 out of 5 or step 4 out of 5.
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All true. I just wince every time I hear someone say 'Oh I'm getting a Mac because it's better for photoshop'

Can you please explain to me how photoshop on a mac could be any better than the same program on a similar specced PC?

I just don't get it, to me it seems like a hangover from the early 90s when PCs were still black and yellow screens with spreadsheets, and apples had a whole host of creative software..

And I'm not saying this to try to start a PC/Apple fight, I've just never been able to find a satisfactory answer..
 

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Apple creates products that you want to use time and time again AND want to tell your friends about it.
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I think that's what I hate most about them. The hypnostyrene packaging, which compells you to recruit more members...
 
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@badboyuk: I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how much use and functions you'll get out of a tablet of that size, whenever a flavor that you'd tolerate come by and you get one of those. By the looks of it, Android will come first in a few a months and MeeGo is still in the distant. I also thought it'll just be an oversized iPod Touch at first, but I was quite wrong.

@Tedri: Ok, I understand your enormous hatred for Apple and everything it represents You may not care about the facts of your arguments anyway..

ps: background downloading is supported by Apple's implementation of multitasking.... also, there were actually a few well backed researches that proved that the way people multitask on their computer actually makes them less productive than if they sit and focus on one thing at a time.
Yeah I agree you could get a pleasant use out of it but its the software side of things that lets it down. Cant play divx/mkv files, cant browse flash websites. As I said it is just simply an enlarged iphone.
If and when it starts supporting other features like i mentioned then it would be worth while getting. I assume meego or android will conquer this aspect prob.
 

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@Tedri: I thought it's the other way around for the last few creative suite iterations. Apple has published a couple of acceleration APIs that adobe has failed to take advatange of. I heard it's finally implemented on the newest CS.

Heh, what's wrong about not having to fight with your gadgets

@badboyuk: Can the n900 play mkv files? If you still have to transcode them to lower resolution/bitrate anyway, I dont see the advantage of format/container compatibility. You know about those 100s of people who've made cursory observation of the N900 and dismissed it on some tech spec/looks/3rd hand reviews and how you think they're wrong? You're doing it here
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Is this Apple's fault or AT&T's?
Both. Design and implementation. I doubt the access to all information using only an ID and e-mail is AT&T idea.
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2010-06-14 , 15:42
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@Tedri: I thought it's the other way around for the last few creative suite iterations. Apple has published a couple of acceleration APIs that adobe has failed to take advatange of. I heard it's finally implemented on the newest CS.

Heh, what's wrong about not having to fight with your gadgets

@badboyuk: Can the n900 play mkv files? If you still have to transcode them to lower resolution/bitrate anyway, I dont see the advantage of format/container compatibility. You know about those 100s of people who've made cursory observation of the N900 and dismissed it on some tech spec/looks/3rd hand reviews and how you think they're wrong? You're doing it here
okay so the n900 cant play mkv files as you've said but you can still stream it over, quality will vary. But my point is that if your going to spend a few hundred quid on a tablet such as the ipad then you would expect it to have these features an more, otherwise you could just get a laptop. The n900 is a tablet but also a phone yet is still superior to the ipad in the features. N900 can still play divx and that is great, what other phone/tablet can do that?
Okay apart from this feature the ipad isn't really worth getting as Apple have also been very fly as to the ports on it so you can't use any 3rd party adapters or cables on it and would have to buy their overpriced gear.
Limitations let the ipad down and therefore the price is unjustified.
And hey you can't make a call on the ipad! n900 yeah you can.
I would be more impressed if it could run windows 7/snow leopard on it and actually function more like a computer rather than just a big iphone for the visually impaired folk.
I know you will say in due time it will get better but what counts and matters is now

Im not an apple fan, never have been but I still give em credit where due but the ipad is just the most ridicilous waste of money gadget they have ever brought out seriously.
 
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