sierrafoxtrot | # 271 | 2010-06-17, 09:30 | Report

just append .jpg or .png to the filename in the save dialog

markusm | # 272 | 2010-06-17, 09:31 | Report

Really?! Duh! Too simple Thank you!!

outdoors | # 273 | 2010-06-17, 10:42 | Report

It seems we have some different experiences on the saving times. Perhaps this difference could be explained by firmware version, app version and such. But there could also be a difference in the time it takes to save a layered work file than to export it as a jpg.

Is it faster to export a flat jpg than to save as a layered workfile?

It sure would suck to have a reboot/shutdown during the save, since im guessing you don´t save that often if it takes 30 min

Dousan | # 274 | 2010-06-17, 11:04 | Report

I had one pic that took about 18 min to save as .ora extension. It was about 3000x3000, only two layers, but a lot of smudge and paintin on top of eachother. (mine was oc'ed at 1000 mhz)

It's much quicker to save as one layer .jpg file, thats my experience

I think i wiil try the paintin on top of a picture, maybe try out a portrait and test some brushes and coloring, now that i've got tones v2 set with the newest update from Aapo

Creativetone | # 275 | 2010-06-17, 13:18 | Report

Yes! I have to agree that it takes very long to save images...
which are "BIG" ... but I am quite happy for that I am able to
paint and sketch quite large scale..

we are using mobile device and limited memory size and
if I can work quite smoothly with 5MP images.. it is enough for me
now and I can enjoy sketching, drawing and painting.

I now tested very big canvases with many layers.. and yes
it takes too long to save and load to work with conveniently.

Ok.. I now understand that it can take forever to save "very" large
images... .. I rarely use much more than about 3000x3000..
very rarely... still I have no 20 minutes saving and loading times..

My workflow could be so different maybe I have used so few strokes. I dunno know?

But keep going making some art... even in small scale..
so that you do not have to worry about loading and saving times..

I think it still enough and more than current mobile sketching devices are offer to us..

Tone aka Creativetone aka Luovatone

ArnimS | # 276 | 2010-06-17, 16:52 | Report

http://www.ufunk.net/en/humour/eizo-...us-quintegral/

Xrays of human figures in various poses, with skeletons. I was surprised how the spine curves in reclined position. See the position of hip-bone. Very interesting.

EmmaGx | # 277 | 2010-06-17, 20:46 | Report

... don't get me wrong i'm not complaining about the 30 min save time ... it's a phone for goodness sakes ... it shouldn't be possible to draw 3000x3000 px images with three layers let alone save them fast ... my laptop wouldn't be that fast either with something that size ...

... the one I had trouble with ended up as a 24mb .ora file ... it's definitely faster to save as .jpg ... but I was working wih layers for a reason and wanted to preserve them ... so I was happy to wait ... it does make saving as you go a bit of a problem when you're dealing with huge images though ... wih more reasonably sized images save time would easily be under a minute ...

More importantly though ... it would be nice if mypaint had a status bar on saving to show what the progress is ... instead currently I get a "MyPaint is not Responding" ... "Close Application Yes/No" response until it's finished saving, at which point I can go back to the drawing ... if you click "yes" accidentally (and I have a couple of times, then you lose everything ... well you end up wih a .tempsave file that I don't know how to open!)

@tone ... I'm having pressure issues as well ... I just can't press my screen that hard without it ghosting ... just means changing the pressure graphs so that it's further to the left (I think! not entirely sure, but seems to work for me!)

I stupidly tried the new brushes when I woke in the middle of the night, and then spent about 2 hours playing with one of the watercolour brushes to get it back to what it had been like in the earlier incarnation! ... I have much respect for you for having worked out so many different brushes ... I've only altered two marginally, and it wasn't easy getting either just right!

outdoors | # 278 | 2010-06-17, 21:06 | Report

@EmmaGx

Perhaps a good strategy would be to save as a jpg from time to time during the work with a layered file. That way if you somehow end up failing to save the .ora you will at least have a jpg to build upon. Even if the layers are not separated anymore it's better than loosing it all. Just a tought

EmmaGx | # 279 | 2010-06-17, 21:32 | Report

... oooh, that's not a bad idea ... so long as it doesn't reduce the quality, or flatten the open document that'd work well ...

outdoors | # 280 | 2010-06-17, 21:37 | Report

Since i haven't got my phone yet I couldn't say.
In the windows version of mypaint you have the option "save as". and it keeps the layers after saving as jpg so you can continue to work and later save as ora. (but the saved jpg is flattened of course) You can also hide layers and save those visible. If this behavior is the same in the n900 i don't know.

But as for flattening the image, if saving it as a jpg should automatically flatten the layers in your work file as well. Try hitting the undo. Assuming there is an undo option

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