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Not to get technical, but no you were not. The kernel was reflashed with new os image, but the old rootfs works with new kernel, but not the reverse. One of the dis-advantages of this platform, is that all images have to boot the same kernel. Perhaps that will be solved someday, bypassing the kernel block device, giving us much more flexibility with our boot options and kernel choices.

Thechnically speaking you are right penguinbait.... What I meant was that I am able to boot to the back up mmc wich is the previous firmware..... Thanks for the correction.
It would be nice though to have such capability in this OS... It is standard in a full Linux Distro

Penguinbait: Now that you/we(!) have KDE pretty much all straightened out, might you consider once again how to eliminate that awfull "clatter" that accompanies booting into the MMC card on which OPENBOX-ROX is installed? This would be much appreciated.

I will look around and see if I can find it, but I actually like the startup sound. This is not real high on the list of things at the moment, but I will see if I can find a way to tell you how to turn it off..

Penguinbait: Many thanks. I believe that in addition to its unpleasant (to me) aspect, it also apparently seems to be slowing down the booting of the MMC partition2, in that the blue horizontal line on the bottom of the screen advances all the way to the right margin (the same as for booting from flash), whereas the booting of the MMC partition2 without the OPENBOX-ROX installed, or on my MMC partition 2 with the KDE installed, completes the booting quicker, prior to the blue line reaching the right margin. I trust I am explaining this phenomena sufficiently clearly.

Explination is fine. But I am hesitant to care

I find it very unlikely that the addition of that sound is adding more than 3 seconds TOPS, to your boot time. Not trying to be a whiner, but cmon. I have spent several hours / days / weeks , playing around with Window Maker / Openbox and lots of time compiling KDE, and I have have shared with you all, and I am glad to. While I am happy to fix problems in future releases, like the stopmaemo script in KDE not supporting themes. This is a problem that will prevent people from being able to use the tarball. When I discovered that sound I never even looked for it, it does not bother me. What bothers me is not being able to have a real windowed environment on my nokia, so I did something about it.

Perhaps you or someone else in the community will be able to determine what is causing it. There are things you can do to start troubleshooting it. Look at what gets installed and determine what could be causing it, and go to google spend some time searching. Create a second partition you can change things and not worry about breaking it, you can always blow it away and start over. This is how I do it, granted I am a unix admin, but I am completely self taught.

Don't get me wrong I am not comming down on you, but rather trying to urge you to experiment and learn. I have asked, pleaded for the community to contribute, update scripts, most of mine need to be fixed to better handle errors, but I have only so much time, After spending a day working and then comming home to my wife and 4 kids, the n800 has become another jobs that don't pay. Its fun though!!!

Again I urge anyone out there using openbox or KDE to contribute, to date one person have sent me something!

Ultimately I want to see a group of developers develop two window managers, one an openbox or other fast window manager, and KDE, because if it is optimized, we could have a full KDE suite with kmail / korganizer and it would be sweet. I proved thats its easy to do, because I dont know crap, the development community could do much better than me. Maybe we should start a petition? I will vote for it.

OK. Point well taken (and made). I have great appreciation for what you've provided us so far, and welcome it unreservedly (really!). I myself am surprised that others haven't contributed more to your several enterprises to date. I myself am honestly singularly unqualified to offer any real bug-fixing help. I am an avid user -- and I trust only a mild complainer. You need pay me no further attention. Best regards, and thanks again, Jim

Well, quite honestly Jim, you have come this far, it may have been a bumpy road, but you did it. You made it further than many others have come. If you have come this far you can go farther, just take your time, be determined, and you can figure out quite a bit, its linux. And like I said google is your friend.

google is my best friend peguinbait I fanally finish with the secripts and about 10 mre icons.. They are comming your way tomorrow. viva le openbox revolutione... Hu?!? :P Back to work..

I would really love to see a community develop around KDE or another WM and integration with Hildon/Maemo apps. KDE is so much more mature and polished than Maemo and it seems a shame to ignore that. I don't think the different projects can survive without each other (on the n800/770) and the ability to share applications. I fired up konqueror while the Hildon desktop was running and although it took a while it did come up and was usable. I'd really like to see the same for Maemo apps in KDE (automatic inclusion of Maemo apps in the menus), but one step at a time I suppose. I definitely sympathize with you penguinbait! --I have five kids and another on the way.

Larry