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2010-05-06
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Usually I'm able to find SOMETHING to do with these problems but I couldn't find anything about this. When you boot the computer, do you get the grub menu at all? (Maybe try holding down shift during the POST and before the OS loads to see if GRUB is set to skip the menu like it is in most of the newest Linux distributions by default).
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by danramos
Usually I'm able to find SOMETHING to do with these problems but I couldn't find anything about this. When you boot the computer, do you get the grub menu at all? (Maybe try holding down shift during the POST and before the OS loads to see if GRUB is set to skip the menu like it is in most of the newest Linux distributions by default).
Actually I don't get the dual boot option at all and looking at the boot file itself I can't see that it is even touched:
Looks like this:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn /sos
So not sure why both the install - and now the uninstall hangs at the bootloader. Darn, wanted to try this out.
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2010-05-06
, 21:39
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You need time :
1) Had you waited more maybe Wubi would have been better
2) Had you waited more it might had finished installing/removing (take your time and choose) the bootloader
3) Had you waited more Ubuntu's quality would have finally met your standards (or your pc's HD's)
4) Now take your time and read some more google (or maemo) tips about multi booting XP+Ubuntu
With time I've come to prefer Vista's bootloader+EasyBCD. Of course you only use vista's BL not the OS.
If you have time, have fun.
1) Had you waited more maybe Wubi would have been better
2) Had you waited more it might had finished installing/removing (take your time and choose) the bootloader
3) Had you waited more Ubuntu's quality would have finally met your standards (or your pc's HD's)
4) Now take your time and read some more google (or maemo) tips about multi booting XP+Ubuntu
With time I've come to prefer Vista's bootloader+EasyBCD. Of course you only use vista's BL not the OS.
If you have time, have fun.
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by atz6975
It takes over an hour for the install/remove to do the bootloader? Wow, ok, that I didn't know.
You need time :
1) Had you waited more maybe Wubi would have been better
2) Had you waited more it might had finished installing/removing (take your time and choose) the bootloader
3) Had you waited more Ubuntu's quality would have finally met your standards (or your pc's HD's)
4) Now take your time and read some more google (or maemo) tips about multi booting XP+Ubuntu
With time I've come to prefer Vista's bootloader+EasyBCD. Of course you only use vista's BL not the OS.
If you have time, have fun.
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My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
.N810 experience: Since 6/2009
My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by silvermountain
I wouldn't think so.. but then I've never used Wubi.
It takes over an hour for the install/remove to do the bootloader? Wow, ok, that I didn't know.
I always repartitioned the drives so that each OS had it's own dedicated partition.
If you try and re-install it doesn't ask you to just over-write the current installation? (again, never used Wubi)
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
Nah, it detects it was 'installed' (even though it failed) and wants to start off with removing the old install - and the "remove bootloader entry" window comes up and sits there..and sits there...
If you try and re-install it doesn't ask you to just over-write the current installation? (again, never used Wubi)
Tried removing from the Control Panel as well with the same result.
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My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
.N810 experience: Since 6/2009
My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
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2010-05-06
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...ok...more seriously...
Really if you just want to try why not use virtual box + straight install of ubuntu. Any average XP machine can run both.
Dual booting is not dark science but might get tricky (obviously did in your case). So unless you're desperate for a "real machine" install why not try the virtual route first. And if ever you're convinced, you can always setup a real machine.
One trick : In Ubuntu's partitionning you must choose to put Grub on the right spot (HD vs Ux partition) depending on wether you want to boot with XP BL or Grub's. This is done by pressing the advanced button JUST BEFORE launching the install.
I hope you didn't take my other post too bad...(if applicable, sorry)
Last edited by atz6975; 2010-05-06 at 22:10.
Darn, wanted to try this out.
Dual booting is not dark science but might get tricky (obviously did in your case). So unless you're desperate for a "real machine" install why not try the virtual route first. And if ever you're convinced, you can always setup a real machine.
One trick : In Ubuntu's partitionning you must choose to put Grub on the right spot (HD vs Ux partition) depending on wether you want to boot with XP BL or Grub's. This is done by pressing the advanced button JUST BEFORE launching the install.
I hope you didn't take my other post too bad...(if applicable, sorry)
Last edited by atz6975; 2010-05-06 at 22:10.
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by atz6975
I don't think Wubi actually gives you this option... I could be wrong though.. it was my first thought too but then I looked at Wubi's page again and it basically just says to put in a password and "install".. with no further interaction.
On trick : In Ubuntu's partitionning you must choose to put Grub on the right spot (HD vs Ux partition) depending on wether you want to boot with XP BL or Grub's.
I hope you didn't take my other post too bad...
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2010-05-06
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Ach ya....Wubi...maybe not an easy setup after all.
Final word then : Virtual Machine
Final word then : Virtual Machine
It ended up sitting on 'installing bootloader.ini-orsomethinglikehat" for an hour. Cancelled it. Rebooted and when trying to re-install it detects an installed version. When trying to un-install it now gets stuck on 'Removing bootloader".
I'm running Win XP on this particular machine.
Unfortunately this does remind me about the quality of Ubuntu the last time I gave up on it.
Oh well, now I got 800 meg I can't get rid of. Reading up on their bugforum there seems to be a fair bit of issues with the dual/multi boot loader.
Anyone got any clever ideas before I resign completely to not trying out this and to continue to see Ubuntu as a hokey bit of failprogram?
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