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zenwalker is offline zenwalker
2007-03-12 , 20:59
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Greetings everyone.
I have a n800 that I connect to the net via my citys public WiFi for $28. a month.
I get a good signal throughout most of the town but not in my apartment(which is a basement).
I bought two DWL-G730APs and I am trying to solder a high-gain antenna to it but where I don't know some pics or diagrams please.
thanks in advance.
 
Milhouse is offline Milhouse
2007-03-12 , 23:14
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Can you return the DWL-G730APs and buy something else that uses a removable antenna and doesn't require soldering?

How do you intend to operate the DWL APs - in repeater mode? This typically halves network performance as the radio in the repeater spends 50% of it's time listening on one "network" and the remaining 50% of its time broadcasting the data on the second extended network.

Do you know if the DWL APs will associate with the city WiFi and also accept connections from the N800? Interested to know if this will work (not that London is likely to get city-wide WiFi, ever).

Something like a leaky feeder is what you need, but these don't work so well with WiFi signals.

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SeRi@lDiE is offline SeRi@lDiE
2007-03-13 , 00:25
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Originally Posted by zenwalker View Post
Greetings everyone.
I have a n800 that I connect to the net via my citys public WiFi for $28. a month.
I get a good signal throughout most of the town but not in my apartment(which is a basement).
I bought two DWL-G730APs and I am trying to solder a high-gain antenna to it but where I don't know some pics or diagrams please.
thanks in advance.
If you trying to use them as reperter you out of luck because the DWL-G730AP does not have a firmware that supports it. Like Milhouse sugested return it and get a new one that has support as a repeater and you can exchange the antenna...
 
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2007-03-13 , 00:41
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or you could try this >> http://j-walk.com/other/wifispray/


(I found that today and couldn't resist )


BTW, I found it during a search because I'm also trying to extend my home WiFi to the street in front of the house where I park my car..
 
Milhouse is offline Milhouse
2007-03-13 , 03:17
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Judging by the post in this thread I now understand better what the OP is trying to achieve - he will be using one DWL-G730 in AP mode with an external/high-gain antenna to connect to the city-wide WiFi, running a CAT5 cable to the LAN port on the second DWL-G730 which is also in AP mode and will be used for the "internal" basement network. As long as both DWL-G730s are on different WiFi channels this should work, assuming it's possible for the "external" DWL-G730 to associate with the city-wide WiFi network.

I've no idea how to attach an external/high-gain antenna to a DWL-G730 - given the choice I'd have gone for a pair of Linksys WRT54GS or equivalent routers as these have detachable antenna.

@YoDude: Wifispray is a joke - it only works with 11b!
 
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2007-03-13 , 05:08
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Judging by the post in this thread I now understand better what the OP is trying to achieve - he will be using one DWL-G730 in AP mode with an external/high-gain antenna to connect to the city-wide WiFi, running a CAT5 cable to the LAN port on the second DWL-G730 which is also in AP mode and will be used for the "internal" basement network. As long as both DWL-G730s are on different WiFi channels this should work, assuming it's possible for the "external" DWL-G730 to associate with the city-wide WiFi network.

I've no idea how to attach an external/high-gain antenna to a DWL-G730 - given the choice I'd have gone for a pair of Linksys WRT54GS or equivalent routers as these have detachable antenna.

@YoDude: Wifispray is a joke - it only works with 11b!
More known as a repeater
And the stock WRT54GS Firmware has no option for repeater you have to use a 3rd party Firmware like OpenWRT or DD-WRT... I tell you what... for 20 dollars get your self a compusa router http://reviews.compusa.com/2795/928616/reviews.htm and load the EDIMAX firmware http://www.edimax.com/html/english/p.../BR-6204Wg.htm They are the same router just one say compusa and it has a cheap firmware.. once you load the edimax firmware you have your self a Linux Router with a ton of options including client mode "repeater" I know because they had a special on this routers for 2.99 at compusa once and I bougth like 10 of them for our company and they work rock solid as repeater.

EDIT:

You can do the same but with more RAM, ROM, CPU and better firmware with the WRT54G or GS me personally I like OpenWRT..

Also dont want to go trhu the hasle? buy your self a AP.
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Milhouse is offline Milhouse
2007-03-13 , 05:33
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Originally Posted by SeRi@lDiE View Post
More known as a repeater
In this case it's actually a bridge. Stock WRT firmware should work, as neither AP is communicating wirelessly with the other, they're simply two Access Points communicating with each other over a wired LAN (WLAN) connection and routing the traffic into and out of the respective sub-nets within each router/Access Point.
 
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SeRi@lDiE is offline SeRi@lDiE
2007-03-13 , 05:53
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
In this case it's actually a bridge. Stock WRT firmware should work, as neither AP is communicating wirelessly with the other, they're simply two Access Points communicating with each other over a wired LAN (WLAN) connection and routing the traffic into and out of the respective sub-nets within each router/Access Point.
Well to some extend you are right... The correct term is bridge not repeater... as one is going to act as a bridge thanks for the correction there... BUT in order for you to connect to another router you have to be in bridge mode using WDS AND client mode.... so to my knowladge stock linksys firmwares do not use WDS...

EDIT:

New revision WRT54GS now have WDS something that they did not have back in v3 and v4 wich I did some development with OpenWRT.... Damn is been a long time... Well smack in the face for not looking in to it first :P
 
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2007-03-13 , 06:35
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No you misunderstand - neither AP is communicating with the other wirelessly, they are merely acting as wired routers between two different wireless networks, in effect bridging the two networks in the same way a router bridges two sub-nets... I'm not even sure that bridge is the correct term in this case - it's possibly plain old routing! WDS would be needed if the two APs were communicating with each other wirelessly, which they're not.

Whatever the correct term though, standard out-of-the-box AP+router functionality will suffice for the OP.
 
zenwalker is offline zenwalker
2007-03-14 , 10:54
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My gratitude to all for such informative response.
This set-up(first G730 in client mode hanging out of my window
connected via CAT5 to second G730 in ap mode resting on a bookcase)seems to be working.
But this is not practical since it could rain, the people upstairs dog might see this as a chew toy or territory to mark.
Is there really no way to solder an external antenna to a G730 or I do have to buy more kit?

p.s. will the WiFi spray interfere with the tin foil on my head?
 
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