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niqbal | # 251 | 2010-05-12, 08:18 | Report

Originally Posted by silvermountain View Post

I agree, it's a GREAT looking browser but with microB being so much more stable (and for me faster), supporting Flash and repo installs - and the battery drain I'm seeing when using Opera - I can't justify 'spending' 15Meg on Opera.

Un-installed but will keep track of updates and am still really happy and thankful for the work these guys did as it might end up being an amazing browser.

ya i uninstalled it for the time being. Speed matters and its not fast at all, especially when you surf sites like nytimes.com. If i had three tabs open and will try to kill one, it won't give me any sort of response. It will be after several clicks. Another issue is image rendering. If you go to say this website talk.maemo.org, and look at maemo.org logo, you will see where it lags behind. I have n900 OCed to 800Mhz, and it was constantly running it at high cpu usage hence warming it up pretty quickly.

Interface for Opera Mobile 10 is beautiful and easy to navigate through since its actually made for touch screens. I am sure with a bit of more work, it will be fantastic

zaoltryence | # 252 | 2010-05-12, 08:41 | Report

just got an update on opera dont know the change log though

maartenmk | # 253 | 2010-05-12, 08:43 | Report

Originally Posted by euanandrews View Post

Cheers for that, but not quite what I want....

The way the default N900 browser does text reflow is perfect, the selected text takes up the whole screen without the broswer changing the layout or design....

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Sometimes the browser changing the layout is better. Try reading some user reviews on IMDB in Opera M. and then in MicroB. And CTRL+SHIFT+I does not work (I have the impression it often doesn't).
It would be nice to have the option to toggle the two approaches, but for now I am happy Opera offers the alternative one.

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toivo | # 254 | 2010-05-12, 08:45 | Report

Originally Posted by euanandrews View Post

Double tap is all that is required.....

Take this thread for example....
Double tap of a post, and it wil not only zoom in the text, but the text will perfectly fit from the left and right sides of the screen....

Then as another example, zoom out, then double tap on a quote within this thread....it will then zoom in on that quote, and not the original thread like the previous example

So its not just zooming in, but also focusing in on the text you have selected, making the selected text fit perfectly from left to right each time

I think the difference is that opera renders all the text frames to the same width which makes them easy to read when zoomed in. The default browser does what's a better rendering of whole page but that results in different sections having different sized fonts when logged in, sometimes too small to read.

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slewis1972 | # 255 | 2010-05-12, 08:47 | Report

Is there any plugins that will work - hoping on a bookmark sync one?

ahockersten | # 256 | 2010-05-12, 08:50 | Report

Originally Posted by niqbal View Post

If you go to say this website talk.maemo.org, and look at maemo.org logo, you will see where it lags behind.

This is not a bug though, this is a part of the Opera Turbo feature:
http://www.opera.com/browser/turbo/

Basically, image quality is reduced to lessen the amount of bandwidth used. You can turn off Opera Turbo in the settings menu, if you do that image quality should be the same as in other browsers. You can also longclick on any image and choose "Reload Image in Full Quality" to load the original image.

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[DarkGUNMAN] | # 257 | 2010-05-12, 09:00 | Report

A very impressIve and agile browser, handled everything so far running in normal mode.
Easily the fastest broswer I've seen when on 3G or wi-fi!

Turbo Mode does take a long time to load images. Guessing the turbo servers are busy or is it a bug? Works fine when it's disabled.

One bug I would like to report is that it removed my link to Opera Mini 4.2 during the installation.

If you are open to feature requests, do you think it would be possible to add an 'Opera Mini Mode'? Obviously some of the page content would be limited, but I still find Opera Mini the best to use on vodafone 2G, and it would be a welcome feature native to opera mobile.

Also, any chance we could get gesture zoom to increment the zoom level

Great job so far!

Last edited by [DarkGUNMAN]; 2010-05-12 at 09:47.

ohrn | # 258 | 2010-05-12, 09:43 | Report

Hi Folks,

Thanks a million for all the overwhelmingly positive feedback, but the Smooth Sailing Team can't take all the credit. While the port to Maemo is our little hobby project, generations of programmers have worked on the Opera browser ever since Geir and Jon handed it down to us on stone tablets!

Regarding all your suggestions on the user interface, we are not directly involved with that part, Opera has a whole team dedicated to developing the the common interface used across all smart-phone platforms and Opera Mini. This means you probably won't see any custom changes for Maemo but rest assured that we will forward your best ideas to our UI team. One day you may see them implemented in all versions of Opera Mobile and Mini.

On our hobby project front we hope to improve the integration with the Maemo platform even more and of course continue to bring you the latest and greatest features as they are developed by other teams. But don't try to make me commit to a time table, because I wont!

/ohrn

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Mitrandir | # 259 | 2010-05-12, 09:59 | Report

Thanks, Fredrik!

How hard it could be to add multilangual input feature to Opera Mobile for Maemo? Without that, this beautiful browser can't be default one for users from many countries

All cyrillic languages and at least greek can't be used right now

Copy-Paste of cyrillic characters is working perfectly, so no problems with fonts. But keyboard is not working. How hard is it add support for typing in non-latin language (at least with hardware keyboard for beginning)?

euanandrews | # 260 | 2010-05-12, 10:43 | Report

Originally Posted by toivo View Post

I think the difference is that opera renders all the text frames to the same width which makes them easy to read when zoomed in. The default browser does what's a better rendering of whole page but that results in different sections having different sized fonts when logged in, sometimes too small to read.

On first impression, the difference I notice between the two, is;
- The default N900 browser zooms in on the selected text
- Where Opera Mobile just zooms in, the zoom amount dictated by what you have set in Settings - Zoom (default being 200%)

As someone else just said, if you select 'Mobile View' in the settings, it will do text reflow.....but it would be nice if Opera Mobile could zoom in on text just like the default N900 browser does, as the downside to selecting Mobile View is it reformats the layout/presentation, so the site will look different from how it was intended.

Regardless.....they are doing a great job....hope to see some updates...fingers crossed for Flash!