benlau | # 501 | 2010-07-26, 16:12 | Report

Entries should not release new version of software during voting period except it is a bug fix release. No any new feature should be added.

Acceptable changes:
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Unacceptable changes:
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Something like that? Sorry for my poor English..

(p.s Time to offline. It is 00:16 in my side, kojacker , thanks for your hard work for this contest! )

(Added : before sleep)

I think the restriction should only concern on release. It should not restrict the source repository. Otherwise , it is not fair to open source project , and it will also affect the development.

And as the rules don't concern about how developer promote the software (no cheating!) , it should not restrict developer talk about what they are going to do next.

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helex | # 502 | 2010-07-26, 18:29 | Report

I'm thankful for this discussion. Otherwise I had now to begin it.

I had not much feedback (and no time) the last weeks since my Application was stable and worked without bugs. The users simply used it and were satisfied.
Since the voting began I got several Ideas submitted, suggestions and questions (mostly thru E-Mail) and I would like to test some stuff and send the people who has asked fixes with the new features.

Don't worry. I haven't uploaded anything new. I fixed last saturday only my package description to promote the latest version to testing (to avoid confusion). I informed kojacker about this per PM. The binarys are identical.

But after getting so much feedback I'm thinking about doing some coding... hmm...

I had this morning the imagination I could ask here to change the text in the voting thread to "get it from extra testing" and provide the new features and changes to those who has asked for it thru extra devel.
Hmm... but finally I guess it is the best to post the compiled code here at the forum so the people are able to test it and I would not dynamite the spirit of our contest.

For me it wouldn't change anything. If there were before the suggestions I had anyway no time to implement it. And now it is to late, I need to much time to implement new features and I'm not able to finish it before the voting is finished. But if I post the binarys at the forum it's for the users harder to get it running. (I don't like this idea)

What do you think?

I'm amyway in the midfield, so I couldn't win.
If I had implemented the suggestions before, perhaps my userbase would be so big that I had won the whole contest without problem. (so be afraid of me and kneel down)

kojacker | # 503 | 2010-07-26, 18:51 | Report

'Option 2' has won the bounty share poll with 50% of the vote!

This means each of the 6 categories get their equal share of the bounty, then...

"2nd place gets 50%, 3rd gets 30%, and 4th gets the remaining 20%. 1st does not get a share of the bounty as Nokia are rewarding the 1st place winner already."

This is pretty cool as it effectively gives us an extra prize per round

Edit: Aaaaaaannndddd we have our first complaint already

Seriously, you just can't win with everyone

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kojacker | # 504 | 2010-07-26, 19:58 | Report

Next time helex, next time! We shall all tremble at the mighty power of helex! Quick... to the helex-proof shelters, everyone!!

Well looking through the feedback (posts, PMs, email) - I first want to say thanks, as everyone has been pretty cool about it It's fairly even but the majority would like to run it as bug fixes only from now on, while the others were happy to open it up. So I guess majority rules, take that you outsiders!!!! Join the sheep and the collective mind!!

What Id like to do is send a quick pm around everyone to let them know the score, that say from midnight tonight GMT we're not letting any more features to be implemented in the released projects til the end of voting. Bug fixes are all good. We don't want to stop any development and I know coders have itchy fingers, so let's say releasing source into repositories is all good too - just as long as it's not built up and available as their competition entry.

How does that sound to y'all ? I really do appreciate your feedbacks on this, it makes everything so much easier!

Also, thanks to helex for thanking my rant back at HellFlyer on the other thread heheh That's what being starving and knowing there is a pizza waiting in the fridge to cook does to a man In essence I must agree the poll should have run longer, in reality we were already late. From the feedback I was getting, it seems the same answer would have come out however long we had run it for longer .. so I dunno

lukash | # 505 | 2010-07-26, 20:01 | Report

Forget HellFlyer...you gave him a good reply

And its not SUCH a big deal how the money gets distibuted. Also, the second option was a clear winner.

Regarding the updates, I think bugfix-only releases should be allowed. Though it might be hard to enforce since it wasn't in the rules, so you'd have to say something like "starting now" I think. If someone released something already, can't stop it.

In the end, its only for the apps that will win something you'd really have to care about whether they added features or not.

helex | # 506 | 2010-07-26, 20:49 | Report

Ouh, in this case it should be allowed for me to integrate support to remote control foobar2000 and the legendary Nokia dBox II (with running Neutrino image) and promote it to extras ASAP?

lukash | # 507 | 2010-07-26, 21:03 | Report

Come on, man, you still have a chance to win something. Every time I see my 3 votes I feel like crying.... I wish there was a way to forbid everyone who voted against me to use my application. That would show the fools, after I add all those cool features I didn't have time to implement because I was concentrating on getting the basics right and testing for bugs that could cause dataloss to people... muahaha.... no.. I'm just kidding....

nicolai | # 508 | 2010-07-26, 21:14 | Report

Please go on with your work lukash.
I miss a good filemanager on my device, more than a fast
application manager :-)

regards
nicolai

helex | # 509 | 2010-07-26, 21:33 | Report

As nikolai said, your Case File Manager is way to important. But I guess the problem you have is that many people are to afraid to mess up with their data while your application is under development (Beta)...
(Personally I can't understand, I'm to afraid to use fast application manager because of this: Bug 10267 - but I'm sure I'm wrong. Nevertheless I won't use a third party application for this as long as the internal app manager works (slow and annoying but it works without additional risk for my device))

I, as a Norton Commander (or mc), Windows Commander / Total Commander user since ages are following your efforts since I have seen the first screenshot. You have luck that your application is in a different category. Otherwise I would wait 5 days with my compliments. (hmm... I miss a angel smiley here)

Edit: Okay, here you have:

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lukash | # 510 | 2010-07-26, 21:45 | Report

Haha, thanks guys. And you have a point, helex. I've done my best testing it, but nobody is perfect, so I can't give any guarantees. All I can say is "you most probably won't lose anything". I should have known its gonna be slow both because of me being cautious and because of people being afraid