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#51
Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
A quick question about this KDE port that I believe hasn't come up yet: Is it possible to rotate the screen layout to portrait with KDE?

I don't have a Linux environment handy where I'm typing this, so I cannot check whether KDE is in fact capable of performing this magiks.
The tool is present (krandr) but because the X-server does not have this feature it won't work. Very annoying. Right behind not being able to use a BT mouse. I don't know if it was ever functional in the X-server and got broken or what. The X server is a little odd because as far as I can tell it's virtually a completely different project than X.org, even though they ship together. Anyway, enough of my meanderings. If the X server was more standardized we wouldn't be in this situation.

Larry
 
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#52
Originally Posted by lbattraw View Post
IMy biggest annoyance is that KDE seems to expect a single mouse press for a lot of situations like starting an application on the desktop; more than that it in slightly different positions makes it think you want to move it or something, which is exactly what you get with the stylus.
The single click on files in conqueror is configurable behavior - i.e. you can set it to double click in Control Panel, IIRC. Mouse movement vs stylus taps is however a global issue to unported linux apps, and needs a global solution.

The only one that comes to mind is to hack the kdrive X server to treat a stylus tap as a mouse move, ignoring the click -- and use the dpad enter key (or some other) held down in combination with a stylus tap to simulate a mouse click.

What do you think?
 
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#53
Originally Posted by ArnimS View Post
The single click on files in conqueror is configurable behavior - i.e. you can set it to double click in Control Panel, IIRC. Mouse movement vs stylus taps is however a global issue to unported linux apps, and needs a global solution.

The only one that comes to mind is to hack the kdrive X server to treat a stylus tap as a mouse move, ignoring the click -- and use the dpad enter key (or some other) held down in combination with a stylus tap to simulate a mouse click.

What do you think?
For whatever reason the mouse configuration section is non-functional/blank, so even the double-click idea is out until that is fixed. It shouldn't be a big deal (hopefully) to fix; I'm slowly working away at getting KDE compiled and going from there. Penguinbait, how did you make KDE? --configure and "make install"or using dpkg-buildpackage? It's taking a while even just to figure out what packages are essential and compiling them too.

Hacking the kdrive code to simulate a right-click would be more interesting to me, using a button in combination to denote a right-click. There's been quite a few times in which it would have been handy.

Larry
 
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#54
Originally Posted by lbattraw View Post
For whatever reason the mouse configuration section is non-functional/blank, so even the double-click idea is out until that is fixed. It shouldn't be a big deal (hopefully) to fix; I'm slowly working away at getting KDE compiled and going from there. Penguinbait, how did you make KDE? --configure and "make install"or using dpkg-buildpackage? It's taking a while even just to figure out what packages are essential and compiling them too.

Hacking the kdrive code to simulate a right-click would be more interesting to me, using a button in combination to denote a right-click. There's been quite a few times in which it would have been handy.

Larry
To answer your question, trial and error. I used ./configure / make / make install/ Yes Larry, its like you almost have to do it twice, everytime you get going you realize you are missing some other package, or you need thread support, or, its always something.

I also looked into mouseemu and several other packages, which I could not make work, this was also my plan, push a menu key + stylus tap = right mouse, but I can not make it work. As for the mouse support not being in the KDE configurator, I think if mouse support was available, IE the hardware devices, it would then show up in the config tool?
 
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#55
Sometimes its the simplest things that bother you the most.

OK, I got the sound working in KDE, not sure if anyone else figured this out yet?


Control Center
Sound System
Hardware Tab
Select the Audio Device (Enlightened Sound Daemon)
(Apply)
General Tab (scroll Down) (Test Sound)

Now noatun will play mp3's and you can use KDE "System Notifications"

I am using konqueror to browse SMB shares and play mp3's with noatun

Sweet!!!!! I can't believe it took me this long, you think I would have tried all the settings!!!
 
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#56
Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
Sometimes its the simplest things that bother you the most.

OK, I got the sound working in KDE, not sure if anyone else figured this out yet?


Control Center
Sound System
Hardware Tab
Select the Audio Device (Enlightened Sound Daemon)
(Apply)
General Tab (scroll Down) (Test Sound)

Now noatun will play mp3's and you can use KDE "System Notifications"

I am using konqueror to browse SMB shares and play mp3's with noatun

Sweet!!!!! I can't believe it took me this long, you think I would have tried all the settings!!!
Yeah, I went kind of settings-crazy there for a bit and tried all the audio device types before finding out that worked. Now we just need Amarok for some real fun! I know somebody got it compiled and working, perhaps they would step forward with a tarball... I had previously been working on trying to get things compiled and packaged in .debs but life got in the way. That would be ideal, to have it installable (and un-installable!) in pieces that people could download easily. I've been working off of the Ubuntu debian sources to try and keep changes minimal from a standard distro.

Larry
 
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#57
I have honestly not played much since putting out the tarball, I was hoping for a better response from the community to show some of the things that you could do with KDE. Now that I got the sound working, I got flite installed and TTS is working nicely. Kmouth and Ksayit both work nicely, Ksayit will read documents to you, and Kmouth can be used by mute people to communicate with people, kinda cool.
 
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#58
Hi. I just went through the setup for this and it worked for me. I'm quite happy to see KDE running in the palm of my hand, even if it's a little on the slow side. My only real problem at this point is that the virtual keyboard sometimes doesn't register the first tap on a key, but then on the next tap registers two keypresses of the key instead which makes things very difficult to use. I tried turning off key repeat to no avail.

I'm working on seeing what I can do about getting stuff like a menu button. I found something that might work... I'll post back if I make any progress on that front.

Thanks for the work on this, guys.

EDIT: To switch to double-click (because we don't appear to have access to the Mouse portion in Control Center, where this is normally changed), run kpersonalizer and choose Windows behavior. This will give KDE double click behavior. I've then went into keyboard shortcuts and tried to give one of the buttons the Popup Menu Context command, but it doesn't appear to do anything, unfortunately.

Last edited by zerojay; 2007-04-19 at 17:37.
 
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#59
Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
Hi. I just went through the setup for this and it worked for me. I'm quite happy to see KDE running in the palm of my hand, even if it's a little on the slow side. My only real problem at this point is that the virtual keyboard sometimes doesn't register the first tap on a key, but then on the next tap registers two keypresses of the key instead which makes things very difficult to use. I tried turning off key repeat to no avail.

I'm working on seeing what I can do about getting stuff like a menu button. I found something that might work... I'll post back if I make any progress on that front.

Thanks for the work on this, guys.

EDIT: To switch to double-click (because we don't appear to have access to the Mouse portion in Control Center, where this is normally changed), run kpersonalizer and choose Windows behavior. This will give KDE double click behavior. I've then went into keyboard shortcuts and tried to give one of the buttons the Popup Menu Context command, but it doesn't appear to do anything, unfortunately.

Welcome!!! Glad to bring another over to the dark side, hehe

Yes because KDE does not see mouse hardware, the control panel applet does not show the mouse settings. I have also noticed sometimes, ok maybe most of the time, Konquerer when entering a web address has the issue where you have to enter all the keys twice when putting in the web address, but the google search and anything on the webpages themselves seem to work without a problem.

It really would be nice to have a 1ghz processor and a 60GB disk, but this works pretty good as is....

Thanks
 
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#60
Hey guys, why all of this... compile fvwm for yourself .... and you are on it ... can configure every part of what you say keyboard, mouse interface.
 
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