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2010-06-27 , 22:22
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Originally Posted by Matan View Post
This thread would violate the proposed t.m.o policy:


Lucky that the policy is not in force yet.
I don't call "please" part of a policy.

But it would be nice if people applied common sense to that issue rather than sarcasm and spite.
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Originally Posted by pelago View Post
They (sneakily?) don't log the outgoing SMSes in the normal database accessible via Conversations on the device. But if your carrier gives you web access to an SMS log you can see it there.
yep, I have a contract with unlimited text and unlimited data and was a little suprised that I was charges 20p outside of this allowance. "n900 lover" you should see the number 84000 in your bill soon enough. 20p is nothing but it's the principle that is inexcusable since I had already registered for MyNokia before, online. Why they couldn't just keep with that web based registration is beyond me. It sends a text at the users cost even to unsubscribe.
 

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expanding on the "Missteps" article:

http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...okia-for-2010/
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I don't call "please" part of a policy.

But it would be nice if people applied common sense to that issue rather than sarcasm and spite.
I don't think that "please" used in that way actually indicates a request. It's like a sign saying "please stay in crosswalk when crossing street." It's a politer way of citing a regulation.
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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
I don't think that "please" used in that way actually indicates a request. It's like a sign saying "please stay in crosswalk when crossing street." It's a politer way of citing a regulation.
We're going to have to disagree again. You keep looking for dark intent that just flat isn'there.

But again: feel free to recommend an alternative statement. I see more nonproductive complaints than suggestions.
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Originally Posted by vinc17 View Post
My box doesn't show this at all. There's nothing about SMS.
Same here. I have the US version. It has a huge disclaimer (much bigger than the one shown in that photo) in English, Spanish and French, and most of it is about how the device needs a data connection to operate, but nothing about Ovi or SMS.
 

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Originally Posted by stlpaul View Post
Same here. I have the US version. It has a huge disclaimer (much bigger than the one shown in that photo) in English, Spanish and French, and most of it is about how the device needs a data connection to operate, but nothing about Ovi or SMS.
Also when I flashed my firmware I don't remember anything asking/telling me about this feature. I just noticed in in the Settings app and tried to opt out. It said that the opt-out failed, but I've never received an SMS from MyNokia, so who knows. Maybe it never signed me up in the first place.
 
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Originally Posted by stlpaul View Post
Also when I flashed my firmware I don't remember anything asking/telling me about this feature. I just noticed in in the Settings app and tried to opt out. It said that the opt-out failed, but I've never received an SMS from MyNokia, so who knows. Maybe it never signed me up in the first place.
IIRC, people in the US are lucky enough to not be autosubscribed to this.
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Ok, even if new boxes got proper disclaimer with this information. I can't find relationship between Mobile Computer (Device) And Ovi service that is clearly ONLY part of the OS. From my understanding this SMS refer to the OVI service not to the device or OS. OR did I mess something up? Do I have to use OVI if I don't want to? Apart of ridiculous situation that even if I want to I can't?
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btw, did anyone ever receive an SMS from nokia using this service? i know when i upgraded to PR 1.2, it subscribed by default. i then chose to unsubscribe to it immediately.

about 2 weeks ago, i got one SMS from it about sygic's navigation software for the n900. the SMS had a country code somewhere in Europe (i think it was +45 or +44 which is either denmark or UK).

so the next question is: i already unsubscribed to it (did it twice). why am i still receiving SMSes?? i have itemized billing. even though the TO number didn't show up, i did get charged for an international SMS when i unsubscribed.

Nokia's response is just bs. This heavy handed approach to forcing things down without giving users a choice is just plain wrong. Why are they still doing things wrong when they are in a market where they are losing market share? sigh....
 
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