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To borrow a line about how people were taking up for Maemo... "it's more open than most..."
If it works for here, it'll work there. Period.
If it works for here, it'll work there. Period.
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by gerbick
No kidding. If I'm to believe what we're told so far, even with just this cursory examination, it appears to be even more open than Maemo.
To borrow a line about how people were taking up for Maemo... "it's more open than most..."
If it works for here, it'll work there. Period.
That's saying quite a lot and makes Android that much more attractive as a Linux based environment with the best of both the Android environments and Debian (if you go get the Debian package for rooted Android--which, in this case, any open-sourced Android would effectively BE).
If nothing else, this would also be a fantastic kick-in-the-pants to Motorola from Samsung, too.
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by gerbick
To borrow a line about how objective people were taking up for Maemo... "it's more open than most..."
If it works for here, it'll work there. Period.
I fixed that for you. It is emphasising my point at the same time.
too much talking about miracles and too little about the facts.
Some guys should cool down a lot, you probably can figure out who I am referring to by yourself...
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by ossipena
Oops! You messed up your fix. I've corrected that back for you. He was right the first time.
Originally Posted by gerbickI fixed that for you. It is emphasising my point at the same time.To borrow a line about how people were taking up for Maemo... "it's more open than most..."
If it works for here, it'll work there. Period.
Originally Posted by ossipena
Indeed. The facts do seem to speak for themselves so far.
too much talking about miracles and too little about the facts.
Some guys should cool down a lot, you probably can figure out who I am referring to by yourself...
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Right, got non-corrupted download. Same situation as stated in earlier analysis, nothing changed. Some nice drivers but a lot of 'wtf' moments like the PowerVR drivers being closed source.
At least for kernel I think it's complete as it extracted that file without issue and no errors - no truncation there. I'm re-downloading and re-iterating to give a proper report.
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by ossipena
You fixed nothing. The facts about what will happen and what has happened are pretty clear to the objective folks.
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This is good news. I gave fCam also an equal statement... that was good news.
MeeGo. So far... well yeah. It's coming. I'll leave it at that.
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Pff... why is PowerVR always so damned closed-minded? >.<
Right, got non-corrupted download. Same situation as stated in earlier analysis, nothing changed. Some nice drivers but a lot of 'wtf' moments like the PowerVR drivers being closed source.
Anyway, at least there's a LOT of open stuff. I'm not sure it's all that much better than Maemo as far as getting more hardware component drivers?
I wonder if Samsung might be able to provide a trickle bit more if it's requested? Certainly, if we've had to deal with a two-faced manufacturer like Nokia, we can probably put some weight to bear on Samsung as well to push components to be more open.
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by gerbick
To borrow a line about how people were taking up for Maemo... "it's more open than most..."
If it works for here, it'll work there. Period.
I love my n900 and maemo, still. But i'd reverse that statement. IMHO it (going open source half way) doesn't work here and it doesn't work there.
Yeah kind of, but not to the point that i'm satisfied as a user and developer.
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2010-07-31
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Originally Posted by danramos
To my knowledge the drivers are open source from the DDK, like the key one, pvrsrvkm - there's no good reason why these should be closed source and it wonders me a bit.
Pff... why is PowerVR always so damned closed-minded? >.<
Initial reaction to this is that it's just the parts they have to publish due to GPL and such and I suspect the kernel drivers have already been published in the samsung trees (excepting the closed source ones..).
So, just another vendor doing the bare minimum :/
Check out for http://opensource.samsung.com/ and 'Mobile' for other instances of the same case..
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