You can easily dump the FIOS router... I did that the first day I received my FIOS service.

You just get "any good" WiFi router, set it up as PPPoE and put in the user name and password you used to set up for the original router... That's how I'm using my Linksys and the Verizon provided Dlink router (not WiFi, just a wired router) is collecting dust in my storage box...

Or has their service now changed so that you can not put standard PPPoE router into their network any more?

I'm not sure. I do have my sweet Netgear that I'd rather use, but the Verizon tech said I *had* to have theirs as the main router (and mine as secondary if I wanted). I have no verified this but I will. They connected my TV coax into the router, so it *could* be that the fact I got the cable TV service also necessitates using their router. We'll see.

That sounds different router that I had. Verizon provided me just a regular off the shelf 4-port D-Link router. This was some 2+ years ago... and I do not have TV service from them. They told me too that I can not use the Linksys router that I already have, other than connecting it after their router... But the reality proved otherwise...

Just to make sure... you are NOT talking about that big gray fiber to ethernet "converter box" that sits outside your house (or could be in your garage?)? If I'm not mistaken that box has couple Cable TV output connectors but those are not used in my setup (because I do not have their TV service.)

Oh, I know the difference between all the boxes. Heck I even helped the guy install stuff.

This router is a beast though-- biggest one I've ever used. It has ports for RJ45 and coax both. I'm thinking the coax connection enables multi-room video routing but I'm not sure. What I need to do is get home, get the router model info and start googling...

Okay: couldn't log in with 770 either, nor laptop. At least the tablets pull up a screen-- the laptop said it couldn't even find the router admin page! I'll look into it further maybe tomorrow.

Can you log in with Firefox from your PC? If so, then you could install that firefox extension called Live HTTP Headers, it'll log all http traffic and you can see what it expects.

Well, here's what I've done TA:

-enabled remote admin on router (o duh) as well as allowing certain input traffic.

-managed to login using IE7 from laptop over wifi afterward!

-managed to login using Firefox from laptop over wifi!

-figured out surface cause why I can't do so using N800: after enabling the admin log on the router, I see that the password is getting garbled after sent from Opera.

Something funky going on here, and I don't see what I can do to fix it. For some reason, the password gets corrupted, probably before it leaves the N800. To my knowledge, this hasn't happened with any other web interfaces.

???

are you able to use a different password so that you can post the password and log here for dissection purposes? of course, change the password back thereafter. we just want to see what you mean.

Yeah I can try that later. But note that I'm drawing a conclusion based on very generic feedback from the admin event log. All it says is something along the lines of "login failed for user admin. Incorrect password.". However, the password entered into the N800 (and 770) was correct in all cases, being the same one I successfully originally used via the desktop and can now use on the laptop. Since I'm entering the correct password on the sending end, but the receiving end claims it's incorrect ONLY for the tablets, the reasonable assumption is that something is occurring to the password in process to render it unacceptable to the admin console. I suspect encryption.

I have cleared all personal settings several times and continue to experiment with the (limited) configuration options via the N800's UI. So far to no noticeable benefit.

Very strange indeed. This could be tricky to figure out, if the web interface is https (i.e. encrypted). Otherwise a network sniffer (e.g. etherreal/wireshark) could be used to dump the data.