My future vision is that MeeGo will become large on netbooks and similar type products, running Intel hardware. MeeGo has virtually no real competition there (yet), and only needs to be spread by Intel and OEM. Intel does it, not to hand out a free OS, but to sell Intel HW without MS leeching all the profit.

On handsets the situation is different. MeeGo will have to compete with Android, MS and Symbian.

On the Shoulders of Giants is a funny book dedicated to finding the origin of that phrase, I think by a sociologist named Merton. It is known as OTSOG among its fans.

We talked about this previously - there was simply not enough interest to do that. The sources are there and any Qt hacker can go for it. Realistically, considering the differences between Diablo and Fremantle (and the N8x0 and N900 hardware) make you wonder if working on MeeGo for the N8x0 might gain you more on the long term and net you the latest Qt 'for free'.

We're talking about two things here - one, making good and simple development tools available. This is the Nokia Qt SDK story - it's not super-polished *yet* but I think it is already visible it is miles easier for devs to do their stuff than it is/was in the days of scratchbox.

The other thing is - why are people so hung up on rewrites and ports ? Sure, if the authors say they want to learn Qt, rewrite their project in it, cool, they will certainly get help, everybody happy (though I don't fully understand what delivery dates are you talking about in the context of community projects). However, if not, it sounds a bit like the Windows-to-Linux story. You know, the questions like 'where are Nero/IE/TotalCommander and when will they be available for Linux'. What's wrong with, say, K3B, Firefox and Midnight Commander ? Some apps will transfer from GTK to Qt, for some the community level GTK support wil be enough and in some cases new favourites will pop up. Sure, the transition must be made as easy/assisted as possible (a LOT easier than the previous NIT tech jumps were), but the bottom line is that the key is inducing genuine interest about Qt in *developers*, otherwise the projects will stall the moment sponsorship or other help dries up. Asking strict plans/schedules about migrating each (or even just popular) GTK FOSS apps available for Maemo would be worse than herding cats, and it's certainly not Nokia's job to decide on what these projects should do in the future.

What i'm currently doing with PyGTKEditor -> KhtEditor ... and thx attila77 for the binding

the current tide only.
I adore Fremantle and will continue to do everything I can for it on our N900 devices!

Hell, I have worked long and hard hours this year with developers and managers to try to make it the single best GTK OS in the world!

But Fremantle does have too much closedness to push it bodily onto other devices and to expand its scope unless a great deal of the closed components are opened up.
Meego *will* allow that by default.

that is my reasoning.

i will believe it when i see it.

And I don't get why people are so goshdarn against other people wanting to know apps that they know in the past that have worked damn well for their uses would ever show up in the future.

To be against that... weird as hell.

Knowing if something useful (software) is or is not coming is a very good position to be in. Not knowing, depends on faith. I have none to waste on idle hope and wishes.

Actually, if MeeGo needs to be pumped by a *keynote*, Ari, Peter or Quim would be in the best position to do so.

My question is why you're badgering lcuk for an answer he can't possibly have.

I mean, I understand that you're pessimistic but damn, some people are trying to put forth -some- effort towards future progress. If Nokia et. al. are as bad as you say, they won't need your help in deterring people.

Badgering and asking for it to be addressed are wholly two different things.

If this platform, or the one coming to replace it is so goddamn brilliant of a platform to develop for, where are the forthcoming apps?

That's my question. Address what's forthcoming for once and have a bit of concrete evidence for once.

There's no pessimism in that sentiment. It's called being inquisitive and requiring more than my faith to be applied. To see it otherwise; rank ignorance.