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    ndi | # 31 | 2010-09-30, 09:57 | Report

    Come on don't play with my feelings here. I'd love a Windows option.

    Yes, yes, tar, feathers, pitchforks. I know.

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    efekt | # 32 | 2010-09-30, 11:02 | Report

    Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
    Lets be honst, Nokia are desparate to get back onto the world stage, if the board have given the guy permission then it just shows they are desparate.
    ...
    And if the Nokia's board didn't? then this whole argument of yours collapses. Don't expect too much when you base your argument on such an un-solid 'fact'...

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    ossipena | # 33 | 2010-09-30, 11:33 | Report

    Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
    maybe windows wants to get meego running and their "os" (read:customization) to win7 phones?
    or what about enabling qt @winmo7? that probably would hurt android pretty badly if nokia&ms put their wallet behind serious software development that can be ported to both oses....

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    efekt | # 34 | 2010-09-30, 12:09 | Report

    Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
    or what about enabling qt @winmo7? that probably would hurt android pretty badly if nokia&ms put their wallet behind serious software development that can be ported to both oses....
    I don't see MS enabling non-MS APIs or solutions by themselves, and as far as I know they've never done this before so why start now?

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    richie | # 35 | 2010-09-30, 12:29 | Report

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...tml?cmpid=yhoo

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    ossipena | # 36 | 2010-09-30, 12:51 | Report

    Originally Posted by efekt View Post
    I don't see MS enabling non-MS APIs or solutions by themselves, and as far as I know they've never done this before so why start now?
    do they need to? all they need to do is to have some logic between the apis, then a propietary piece of software should be able to patch the code and recompile from winmo7 to meego and vice versa? and if some functionality is restricted in winmo7, then it simply is restricted and not used.

    yes I know this is a long shot but with the amount of information available, it is as good guess as any idea mentioned....

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    kureyon | # 37 | 2010-09-30, 13:22 | Report

    Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
    Lets be honst, Nokia are desparate to get back onto the world stage
    And using Windows will help them how? Go out with a bang?

    Originally Posted by
    WP7 is being touted and more importantly being developed by someone else
    And that someone else is MS, distinguished purveyors
    of expensive crap.

    Originally Posted by
    And it will have to have the same birth as Maemo, which means simple errors, badly thought out screens and miss most of the useful features for a few months.
    Well it's stable. Been using it for about 4 months now, have extras-testing and extras-devel enabled (and using apps from them) - only had to forcibly reset the N900 once - that was when I was copying a bunch of stuff from SD card onto the internal memory and I thought it had locked up.

    Originally Posted by
    So short term WP7 will be the way forward as MS will do anything to get a high end phone maker on side because it has to claw back from Android.
    So abandon the platform that, despite its shortcomings, is still the market leader and choose the platform with the lowest and declining market (and mind) share? Which business school did you go to? I hope Elop didn't go to the same one

    Originally Posted by
    Winmo was awful and bloated, but I prefer it for reliability and work because Maemo is pants.
    Windows, reliability - pick one.

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    JulmaHerra | # 38 | 2010-09-30, 13:24 | Report

    Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 View Post
    Lets be honst, Nokia are desparate to get back onto the world stage, if the board have given the guy permission then it just shows they are desparate. WP7 is being touted and more importantly being developed by someone else and Nokia are struggling to shift anything that catches the headlines like iphone and Android. They are also struggling with their own in house development and have been for a while. N8 was held back, Maemo is dead (From their point of view) Meego far from ready, their last few phones had serious issues and didn't sell, making bad headlines (N97 & mini) And Symbian 4 is where?
    What we have here is that same dilemma Vanjoki mentioned when speaking about Android and peeing your pants for warmth. It's not really that important for Nokia to have huge media coverage about some new platform by any means possible. More important for them is to have clear strategy on software and platforms, which they do have now. It really couldn't get more straightforward: It is S40 for low end, Symbian for middle class and MeeGo for high end, Symbian and MeeGo bound together with Qt. Yes, there was a delay on N8 but afterall they started shipping them today, as promised. Yes, Meego is in hindsight, but it's not mature enough to be published at large for now. However, if Nokia needed the publicity suggested for Windows Phone 7 to close the gap between N8 and future MeeGo device, only to create some buzz on american market, they are late. It is simply impossible to develop, refine and publish new device on new operating system, integrate it to Ovi services and push it to the customers in three months.

    Even if it succeeded, what good would it make? IMO, nothing. Absolutely nothing. Blogoshpere would be touting their idea of outsourcing all software development as sensible choice, but with MeeGo being just around the corner (Q1/2011, certainly not later than Q2), it would take too much attention away from launch of new product. It would make an utter disaster from marketing point of view. Even if that happened, what would they do with Windows Phone 7? How would they position it? To enterprise? They have Symbian already, with very good management and integration to services. To high end multimedia and mobile computing? There's MeeGo - they cannot adopt Windows Phone 7 without killing MeeGo. That would be very bad thing for their credibility because it would be seen as complete inability to stick to strategy and act in predictable way.

    Basically, all Nokia can do right now is to execute their strategy as fast and good as possible. Any other option will only be a burden in the long run. If MeeGo is a failure, then there might be room for Windows, but we don't know it until N9 actually ships.

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    ndi | # 39 | 2010-09-30, 15:47 | Report

    Originally Posted by kureyon View Post
    Windows, reliability - pick one.
    I'm not sure it bothers me because because I am part of the Windows community or because I'm part of a Linux community.

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    richie | # 40 | 2010-09-30, 19:14 | Report

    Another interesting article,

    http://blogs.gartner.com/nick_jones/...meego-for-wp7/

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