neal | # 771 | 2011-11-26, 00:40 | Report

Specifying 20 seats only yields 18 elected candidates. Perhaps some games didn't get enough votes according to RTSTV?

$ openstv-run-election -r CsvReport -s 20 RTSTV games.blt
"Election for","MeeGo Coding Competition Games Category"
"Date","26 Nov 2011"
"Number to be elected",20
"Valid votes",64
"Invalid votes",2
"Quota",4
"OpenSTV","1.6.1"
"Election rules","Random Transfer STV"
,,"Stage",2,"Stage",3,"Stage",4,"Stage",5,"Stage", 6,"Stage",7,"Stage",8
,"First","Surplus of",,"Surplus of",,"Surplus of",,"Surplus of",,"Surplus of",,"Surplus of",,"Exclusion of",
"Candidates","Preferences","Nine Mens Morris Muhle http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/51",,"Billiardos http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/82",,"PGZ Space Invaders http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/10",,"pinball http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/9",,"Mong http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/41",,"Wordsler http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/54",,"Lets MeeGo http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/67+The Math Game http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/26+VSpeed http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/32",
"Ball Game http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/17",1,,1,,1,,1,,1,,1,,1,,1,"Elected"
"Balloon Aliens http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/39",3,,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,"Elected"
"Billiardos http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/82",7,,7,-3,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"Demine http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/79",2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,"Elected"
"Fracciones http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/75",3,+1,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"Ghosts Overboard http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/36",2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,"Elected"
"Inner Spin http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/16",4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"Lets MeeGo http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/67",0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,"-",
"MNonograms http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/46",2,,2,,2,,2,+1,3,,3,,3,,3,"Elected"
"Mong http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/41",5,,5,,5,,5,,5,-1,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"Nanoparticles http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/19",4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"Nine Mens Morris Muhle http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/51",8,-4,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"PGZ Space Invaders http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/10",7,,7,,7,-3,4,,4,,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"pinball http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/9",5,,5,,5,,5,-1,4,,4,,4,,4,"Elected"
"SchachUhr http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/49",2,+1,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,"Elected"
"Swarm Atakk http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/85",0,+1,1,,1,,1,,1,,1,,1,,1,"Elected"
"Tap em http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/40",2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,,2,"Elected"
"The Math Game http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/26",0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,"-",
"Tribute http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/8",2,,2,+1,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,,3,"Elected"
"VSpeed http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/32",0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,"-",
"Wordsler http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/54",5,,5,,5,,5,,5,,5,-1,4,,4,"Elected"
"Non-transferable", ,+1,1,+2,3,+3,6,,6,+1,7,+1,8,,8,
"Totals",64,,64,,64,,64,,64,,64,,64,,64

yaln | # 772 | 2011-11-26, 07:53 | Report

I spotted a small anomoly in the Business and Office category. Vote
L05IxdjVS3B6RXOXkFUAbTE2C07eML3w seems to have the same app in first and second

http://maemo.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=11

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Last edited by yaln; 2011-11-26 at 08:13. Reason: Added link and tweaked wording

helex | # 773 | 2011-11-26, 09:29 | Report

Yeah, this would have been my Vote if I had known how to vote like this!

I had already voted and perhaps developed different projects in favour if I had known this results before. At example I stopped the development of N900-x-ray in favour of ClipMan. Moreover I voted myself for BashORGquotations at place 1 instead of N900-x-ray. The criticism, the insults and complaints were to heavy and I thought it would have no chance to get many votes so I concentrated myself at more useful applications like ClipMan. But I never expected myself that LUCID could get so many votes... It works great, but I don't know for what I could use it myself. I was really surprised, I had thought totally different applications could get far more votes in this category. Strong competitors - Congratulations!

zehjotkah | # 774 | 2011-11-28, 08:31 | Report

Just wrote Nemein an email, asking for the official final results.

zehjotkah | # 775 | 2011-11-28, 10:58 | Report

And the answer:

zehjotkah | # 776 | 2011-11-28, 12:05 | Report

Sorry for triple post.

Your feedback please...

Helmuth | # 777 | 2011-11-28, 12:39 | Report

Oops! Mmh... what about using exactly the same method as for the last council election: http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=10

Hmm... perhaps without threshold... but I don't understand what is it for?!

Okay, I guess I really don't understand this voting system. And it would help if someone could explain me what are "ties" in the context of this voting... but I would, without this knowledge, prefer to simply use "the same" without asking much what it does exactly.

I'm afraid some clever developer could look now at the already released numbers, count it itself with different "break methods" and prefer / promote the procedure that gaves him more votes than the other projects.

Helmuth | # 778 | 2011-11-28, 12:47 | Report

Hmm... okay, "the same" doesn't work if we wan't to get a ranking of all participants... ...we don't have "5 seats" - we have 3 (or 4) to elect and display the others in the order of votes they get.

zehjotkah | # 779 | 2011-11-28, 12:50 | Report

As Helmuth just said...
Okay, which one to take? I don't want to decide this on my own...

Helmuth | # 780 | 2011-11-28, 12:59 | Report

Okay, currently reading this: http://www.openstv.org/ranked-choice-voting

I guess it was not a very clever idea to become not a mathematician... moreover I'm near to say my english makes a additional limitation.