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Old 2011-05-03, 16:47
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Default The Ludicrous N900 Powermat Mod

Hey there,

at first the usual warnings:

If you do something similar as described in this thread you
- loose the warranty for your device,
- may damage or destroy your device,
- may cause damage to you or your environment,
- might do other dangerous stuff!
If you try to do anything of this you do this on your own responsibility and at your own risk!
There is absolutely no warranty that this will work for you.
Furthermore, there is no warranty that the posted information is correct at all.
Do not blame me if you mess up your device or something else by trying to do this.


That being said, lets go to the fun part:

I made some rather brutal modification to my N900 which allows me to charge it with the Powermat (TM) system.
So far it basically works.
One issue is that the Powermat sender stops charging after some 20 minutes of charging.
I didn't actually measure the time yet.
Though, this works as a very first proof of concept.

I attached some first pictures taken of the device being charged and the modification itself.
I'll add more pictures of the nasty work and inside of the device and also more details of how I did this later on.
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Old 2011-05-03, 16:59
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Oh man... you must put up a warning that there are some very graphical and disturbing images on this thread. Had to turn away in horror when I saw the second picture of the glorious N900 with it's back cover all... torn up... (shivers)

Kudos to you for trying something like this though.
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Old 2011-05-03, 17:15
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Dude, we are all eager to see further instructions!!!
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Old 2011-05-03, 18:25
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It would be nice if the power mat made the back of the N900 flat, instead of having the camera module sticking out a bit nice work so far, keep it up!
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Old 2011-05-03, 18:33
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Default Re: The Ludicrous N900 Powermat Mod

The horror! But it sure would be nice to either support inductive charging or be able to hot swap a battery.
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Default Re: The Ludicrous N900 Powermat Mod

WOW! Super! I would love this. I use an Otter Box on the outside, so removing or mangling the original back isn't that big of an issue if that's all the space it needs! Where are you connecting it internally?
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Curiously, does this connect directly to the battery or run through the device to the pins before the IC?

Looking forward to seeing the internal pictures.
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Curiously, does this connect directly to the battery or run through the device to the pins before the IC?

Looking forward to seeing the internal pictures.
The system banner says "Akku wird geladen" which apparently translates to "battery charging", so I assume he must be charging through the device.
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Alright... of course all warnings etc. from the initial post apply as well

I connect the whole shebang via USB. Though I am not using the USB port but rather the pads beneath the battery (see the first image).

I took the Powermat receiver of an Iphone 3G Powermat set. You can pretty easily break it off the casing without damaging it. Furthermore, it is internally connected via a flat ribbon cable which detaches easily.
On the second picture you can see where I identified GND and +5V (actually you get something around 5.2V from it). I accidentally fried the first GND soldering pad located next to the +5V pad so I used another GND pad which can be seen in the background.

In the third picture you can see the cabling on the pads beneath the battery. The fourth picture shows the inserted battery and the already modded back-cover including the Powermat receiver and the cabling.

Note: You need to short-circuit +Data and -Data of the USB port in order for the charging to work. Actually I measured something like 2.5 Ohms resistance between these two but short-circuiting also works. For more information see: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...818#post997818
I do this by using a dip switch which connects +Data and -Data.
So when I want to charge via Powermat I have this switch turned on (default for now). One only needs to remember to put this to off if you want to connect via the "normal" USB port. Else you would short-circuit your computers USB port.

Also note that I put a small diode (something above 5V, 40 V or so will do with 1A) between the Powermat +5V and the USB 5V on the N900. The reason for this is to protect the Powermat receiver from the 5V when a USB cable is connected.
I actually don't know if this is needed. I just wanted to make sure I do not fry my receiver the next time when I connect my N900 to my PC via USB.

Well, after this was all setup I simply put the stuff together. Though, on the side where the cables come out from beneath the battery the back cover does not close completely, i.e., there is some opening left. This is no problem for me as I use another cheap silicon case anyway.
As you may have noticed the Powermat receiver nicely aligns with the silicon case. You can see this on the second picture in the first post. You also see the dip switch there.

The whole modding of the back-cover required quite some force. I used a drill to get four holes in and a small saw to cut out a square (smaller than needed). Then I used a cutter knife to carefully increase the created hole to make it fit to the Powermat receiver.
Note: I kept checking the size of the hole each time to ensure I do not cut off to much. I also cut out another small square beneath the camera opening to have a place to put the dip switch and the diode.
Then I used some epoxy glue to attach the receiver to the back-cover. I also used epoxy glue to fixate the dip switch and the diode.
Note: make sure the whole thing works prior to doing this. Also be very careful with this glue stuff as you can easily glue together parts you don't want to be put together permanently, e.g., the back-cover and the main body of the N900.

As you may notice I also cut off some parts of the camera opening. This was necessary as the Powermat receiver is quite big. Though, if you don't cut off too much the camere still works. Even the camera app launches automatically and the pictures still look fine.

Edit: also note that for some, currently unknown, reason the charging just stops after a while.
When you take the phone off the Powermat sender and put it back on the charging continues.
Currently I need to do this about two or three times to get a the N900 fully charged.
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Old 2011-05-03, 21:25
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Default Re: The Ludicrous N900 Powermat Mod

where can i get theese powermat things??
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