The EPIC N9 anticipation thread - Page 20 - maemo.org

Rugoz | # 191 | 2011-05-12, 23:37 | Report

Originally Posted by

good: the preinstalled version of Ovi Maps is exactly the same as the one found on Symbian devices.

hopefully with a new fancy qml ui...

tissot | # 192 | 2011-05-12, 23:46 | Report

RM-680 has had long road and i'am at least very surprised it's still alive.
If true the whole RM-680 dev phone and the mass market "lankku" released later sounds a bit weird. Where is the RM-680 exactly needed? As the RM-680 is old as hell did they have 100 000 of them in storage and had to come up a away to sell them?

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kojacker | # 193 | 2011-05-12, 23:48 | Report

Originally Posted by zehjotkah View Post

edit: and to stop with some speculation:
who would be damaged if Elop really would want to make MeeGo look crappy?
It's only Nokia who would get a damaged brand image, because the end consumer won't distinct between MeeGo or Windows Phone (that doesn't mean that the UI is similar!), just because he doesn't care. he would just see a crappy Nokia phone - brand image damaged. so we can clearly say, that we won't see any crippled down crappy OS.

I think you're right, zehjotkah, but allow me to play Devil's advocate a little..

What if Elop wanted a really crappy MeeGo device to be released? One that would be poorly reviewed, sell badly - why would he want that? Well wouldn't that make his decision to drop MeeGo for Windows Phone 7 look like a great decision?! Strengthen his reputation with investors, and give him more power in the boardroom?

A poor MeeGo handset would enable him to say "I told you so" and move full steam to MicroSoft. The released MeeGo device could be put to one side as just fulfilling a contractual obligation to Intel as part of the MeeGo partnership, on a limited volume run to keep costs down and keep it away from consumers.

Just saying

It won't be long before we know for sure

In any case Im really looking forward to hearing more about the device, after Elopocalypse isn't it heartening to have some good news from Nokia regarding MeeGo for a change?

Last rumours were that it was dropped, it was based on 2009 technology anyway, plus there were only 2 men and their dog working on the UX. However MeeGo was supposed to be at the power end of the products, so hopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised when the spec sheet is unveiled

And hopefully the devs on here will be eligible and able to get their grubby hands on one through a developer device program/similar mechanism, so we can all benefit when the commercial device is released

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Rugoz | # 194 | 2011-05-13, 00:24 | Report

Originally Posted by

What if Elop wanted a really crappy MeeGo device to be released? One that would be poorly reviewed, sell badly - why would he want that? Well wouldn't that make his decision to drop MeeGo for Windows Phone 7 look like a great decision?! Strengthen his reputation with investors, and give him more power in the boardroom?

A great meego device puts him in a better bargaining position with MS.
There's a chance other manufacturers will use meego if the noka phones are a success. I think there's a lot at stake here for the future of meego.

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geohsia | # 195 | 2011-05-13, 01:37 | Report

Originally Posted by richwhite View Post

Or in other words, your experience is Nokia doesn't satisfy your needs. So why get another Nokia device?

Again, SW vs HW are two different things. Give the HW the right performance and that addresses a multitude of SW problems.

Originally Posted by TheLongshot View Post

Reality? To be honest, neither you or me really know what the goal of them releasing the "N950" (or whatever they decide to call it), so making such comments are premature.

True, but it is just a guess on my side based on their current stated position. I hope MeeGo succeeds and Nokia changes their tune.

Frappacino | # 196 | 2011-05-13, 01:57 | Report

You dont care what Nokia will do ?

Hint for the clueless - who do you think PAYS for Maemo.Org and the repositories at the moment ? What do you think will happen to N900 "community support" if TMO forums and the code repositories went away ? The admins here have admitted of Nokia pulled the plug community support will be in BIG trouble as the code repos will not be easily replaceable.

The ecosystem for this new Nokia phone AFAIK does NOT exist yet. Who will pay for the infrastructure to support the community support ? Do you know that yet ? How do you know it can exist independently by itself ?

As with most "head in the clouds" idealists, the issue of who pays the $$$ and practical realities seem to have escaped your attention.

Duh.

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post

yes in the same way as CSSU on Maemo5 and MeegoDE for N900.

Personally thats why I will buy this new handset.

I dont give a **** what Nokia will do with support as long as we have a community and I can tweek it.

If I want "support" I would go for some crappy Iphone or WP7.

N900 and Nxx is for the community who prefer "as open as possible" :-D

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aironeous | # 197 | 2011-05-13, 01:59 | Report

I'm getting a headache listening to all of your developer type speak.

I have a LG G2X now and it's very fast and I am very happy with how it performs on this thing called android and I'm watching guys making new roms that are faster than stock and they are also modding the crap out of it making it faster and better.
LG is coming out with some meego phones next month so lets see what that is all about
This N950 better be dual core and a gpu and a nice big screen and have flash or I'm not buying.

zehjotkah | # 198 | 2011-05-13, 04:10 | Report

Originally Posted by Rugoz View Post

hopefully with a new fancy qml ui...

the application is based on qt, yes. it's exactly the same as the one found in symbian. they haven't done an extra version for maemo.

Originally Posted by kojacker View Post

What if Elop wanted a really crappy MeeGo device to be released? One that would be poorly reviewed, sell badly - why would he want that? Well wouldn't that make his decision to drop MeeGo for Windows Phone 7 look like a great decision?! Strengthen his reputation with investors, and give him more power in the boardroom?

A poor MeeGo handset would enable him to say "I told you so" and move full steam to MicroSoft. The released MeeGo device could be put to one side as just fulfilling a contractual obligation to Intel as part of the MeeGo partnership, on a limited volume run to keep costs down and keep it away from consumers.

he would simply decide that Nokia won't release a MeeGo device. there are no contracts between Nokia and Intel. Nokia is not forced to release that device. They release it because they think it's a great device (and I think so, too).
A poorly reviewed device won't help Elop, because the reputation of whole Nokia would suffer. For the end-consumer there is no difference between a Symbian-, maemo-, MeeGo- or Windows Phone-Nokia. It's us who know a lot about that and who care about that. 99% of the customers don't care. They just see the brand. In this hypothetical case a crappy Nokia device. This is the reason why the late 2010-maemo-Nokia device wasn't released - because it wasn't ready - for the clueless end-consumer.
Nokia want to get away from the "poorly-designed-UI-brand-image".
Nokias Harmattan device will be amazing. Different.

Originally Posted by aironeous View Post

LG is coming out with some meego phones next month so lets see what that is all about

Source?
LG is interested in MeeGo, yes. But currently they're developing an IVI system.

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gleydsonpr | # 199 | 2011-05-13, 05:06 | Report

Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz View Post

I was about to go with the HP Veer but I think I will hold out for this. This is what I've been waiting for. Hardware keyboard and bigger screen than the 3.5" the n900 has. Hope the N950 will have the camera of N8 or better.

In my case am tempted to get SGS2 with its dualcore 1GB Ram, 4.3 super amoled+...

Like most of us I wish at ( least ) :

- 1.2 GHz single core, maybe 1.4 like some new android, can't remember wich. Dual A9 would be wondeful, but I doubt knowing Nokia.

- 4'' amoled wvga or fwvga (better), qhd would be wonderful again, but doubt again...

- A good gpu the one 'PowerVR 540' , better 543 model, wonderful...

- 4 rows HW Kb.

- Option to overclock, then we could get 1.8, maybe 2.0 GHz.

- Ram expected 1 GB for smooth multitask, 768 would be nice, but ...knowing Nokia would be 512. An idea, could be 512 + 1 GB virtual, awesome I think.

- HDMI feature and USB on the Go.

-It must feel like a upgrade from my since September, 2010 N900.

Sorry for the long list, but I am as excited as most here for this N9 950 and wishing these specs get trough REALLIFE .

xenkof | # 200 | 2011-05-13, 05:37 | Report

According to this: http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/11/ru...g-this-summer/

An advertising agency has been hired to do commercials for a Nokia N950 device with 4G and touchscreen (not a lot details but they were the only things stated), that launches this summer.