The EPIC N9 anticipation thread - Page 413 - maemo.org

qwazix | # 4121 | 2011-06-07, 00:55 | Report

I'm going to buy a N900, and stick a five over the first zero. No resistive and no widgets was already a step backwards, now the new device seems less and less desirable (no hwkb, same generation cpu, less ppi, smaller battery)

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HaugMedia | # 4122 | 2011-06-07, 00:59 | Report

Remember two things about Elop people:

1. The goal, as Elop told a group of engineers in Berlin on Feb. 29, is once again to “find that next big thing that blows away Apple, Android, and everything we’re doing with Microsoft right now and make it irrelevant—all of it. So go for it, without having to worry about saving Nokia’s rear end in the next 12 months. I’ve taken off the handcuffs.”

2. He was shocked about all the unused technology and software hidden in the research labs that wasn’t used yet in a consumer device.

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volt | # 4123 | 2011-06-07, 01:00 | Report

Originally Posted by onethreealpha View Post

Look where Meego sits......
right at the very top.
above WP

That WP is going to replace Symbian is common knowledge and makes sense from both MS and Nokia perspective.
MS needs the sort of massive number of handsets that currently is the domain of Symbian and Nokia needs a replacement for an OS that is perceived as outdated and beyond redemption.

A part of the appeal of a high end handset is exclusivity (and features) and "another WP handset" won't fit the bill. Even a maemo 6 handset this year will give Nokia the time it needs to refine Meego in house.

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You're completely ignoring that MeeGo goes from sitting on top of an OS that would feed MeeGo Qt applications built by the biggest platform in sales as of pre-february, to sit on top of an OS that would fight with fingernails and patents to prevent MeeGo from getting any synergy effect. Nobody will develop for MeeGo unless someone actually use MeeGo. What was good about Maemo were ported applications and the handful of gems made by this small community - what would have been good by MeeGo on top of Symbian^3 would be ported applications + the handful of gems made by this small community + an abundance of Qt apps recompiled from Symbian.

Without Symbian, MeeGo is just as Maemo - a really tiny niche. It can not be "on top of WP" - it will be way to the left of any triangle where WP is part.

Nokia were just about to enter a new phase in their OS strategy - they were building the foundation of Synergy. With cross platform Qt - which is the heart and foundation of the Qt thinking - they could even ensnare developers from Android and Windows Phone 7/8 without making these developers give up on their chosen OS. But instead they go out and announce that they wouldn't want to put any Qt on their Windows Phones, and that strategy - which were just starting to look promising - is laid dead.

Qt isn't technically dead yet, but Nokia sure isn't going to take it where they said they would - and without that, there will be no Nokia Maps on MeeGo, there will be no whatever we want to pick from another platform, it'll only be what Qwerty and the other people in here take the time to develop and port.

While that still makes MeeGo a brilliant platform, it'll make it just as individual dependent as Maemo was.

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MeeGo with Symbian^3 > MeeGo with Windows Phone 8
(read bigger, not better)

xxMurdakillxx | # 4124 | 2011-06-07, 01:09 | Report

What is the ppi on the screen for the upcoming device?

xxMurdakillxx | # 4125 | 2011-06-07, 01:10 | Report

Any word on the screen?

xxMurdakillxx | # 4126 | 2011-06-07, 01:11 | Report

Did I mention the screen? Any confirmed information?

HaugMedia | # 4127 | 2011-06-07, 01:12 | Report

Originally Posted by

On his visit to Salo, Elop was shown a hi-fi speaker that encloses a phone, giving a richer sound. Another engineer handed him a phone and asked him to toss it into a tank of water. When the engineer dialed its number, the device, still submerged, rang. A nanoscale coating makes electronic parts water-resistant. "This kind of stuff has been sitting around people's desks, because it's too hard to get anything done around here," Elop says. "If we can get some of this to market—that's what gives me confidence."

Hope the N9 features this water-tank resistant feature.

nwerneck | # 4128 | 2011-06-07, 01:21 | Report

Originally Posted by volt View Post

Qt isn't technically dead yet, but Nokia sure isn't going to take it where they said they would - and without that, there will be no Nokia Maps on MeeGo, there will be no whatever we want to pick from another platform, it'll only be what Qwerty and the other people in here take the time to develop and port.

Qt has a long story before Nokia, and can stand one or two broken promises... It's still a great tool, and will certainly survive whatever future is reserved for Nokia.

volt | # 4129 | 2011-06-07, 01:25 | Report

Originally Posted by nwerneck View Post

Qt has a long story before Nokia, and can stand one or two broken promises... It's still a great tool, and will certainly survive whatever future is reserved for Nokia.

Nokia is splitting Qt up, though. What once was a separate company is being divided and parts are being sold out. Other parts are being kept. Doesn't look like Qt will be Qt.

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HaugMedia | # 4130 | 2011-06-07, 01:35 | Report

Random fact: Anyone that knows the norwegian company Trolltech is the inventor of Qt?

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