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marxian | # 5231 | 2011-09-05, 12:47 | Report

Originally Posted by dtergens View Post

Well, sorry ladies & gentlemen, nothing has been announced on June 21, please everyone look at the red light :-)

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ericsson | # 5232 | 2011-09-05, 12:50 | Report

Originally Posted by marxian View Post

Because you have made a number of posts asserting that both WP and the N9 will be a success, without supplying any evidence to support those claims. All you have is a blind faith that Nokia and MS will somehow produce a miracle. Your arguments amount to 'WP is cool, therefore it will be a massive hit' or 'SwipeUX is cool, so the N9 will sell by the bucket load'. Perhaps that is the approach that is taken by the top brass at Nokia, which would explain their recent failures. Maybe they thought the N97 was cool.

Maybe right now, they are thinking 'SwipeUX is so cool, we don't need to bother marketing the N9. Hell, let's not even bother to sell it in most of the world. We can just sell it in Timbuctoo, and people from all over the world will buy one via some online retailer with no reputation'.

The N9 IS sold (going to be) in most of the world, by far compared with the first batch of WP phones. That you don't happen to live in a region suitable, well - there is nothing I can do about it. The Searay has a very limited production, and it is NOT a flagship of any kind, those will come later in 2012. Thus the searey is limited to a sub-region in Europe where Nokia believes they will have largest chance of success. UK and Ge in particular where it will be sold by operators because that's where operators are strong in Europe. Hardware wise, the N9 and searey look identical.

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abill_uk | # 5233 | 2011-09-05, 13:58 | Report

Originally Posted by danramos View Post

Guys, guys...

HA that brings back memories !!!! do you remember 95 on floppies? question is..... how many floppies were there to complete the install ie the full set of ?

Do you remember?

hotnikkelz | # 5234 | 2011-09-05, 14:49 | Report

@danramos
I disagree with you when you said that marketing won't help Microsoft. Whereas Vista sucked and so did the Zune, WP does not suck. Well it did, but the updates will change that. It is actually kinda good....for Microsoft. GOOD marketing will help it. Your examples simply point out bad marketing strategies imo.

@mikecomputing
Your optimism is really amazing. FOSS only survives when there's good investment and a STRONG backing of people behind it. Both of which have been dwindling heavily of late. No doubt the platform had potential, but by itself that it is not enough. It is not looking too compelling right now.

The way I look at Meego now is one that has been SABOTAGED from the beginning. I've been following Meego from the start, and the ***** was just soooo slow to grow. It has to be the slowest FOSS projects I've ever seen, and it was 'formerly' backed by TWO very powerful brands Nokia and Intel, yet it just can't see the light of day after what 3-5 years?? why is that? Lack of investment, marketing, closed dev community among a shitload of other things. To top if off Elop just put a big *** nail in its coffin.

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Dave999 | # 5235 | 2011-09-05, 15:23 | Report

What's going on in this thread?

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jalyst | # 5236 | 2011-09-05, 15:33 | Report

Originally Posted by Chuck Norris View Post

What's going on in this thread?

You've entered the twilight zone...

Looks like there's been lotsa crap & the occasional good point spewed by many in 24hrs.
Lots of reading to catch-up on, why do I torture myself so.

I swear I'm going to resist the temptation to debate any of the points made.
No siree, no, no....

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mikecomputing | # 5237 | 2011-09-05, 16:01 | Report

Originally Posted by PortaDiFerro View Post

Nokia already "won" their patent arguments with Apple, which I would assume means cross-licensing, so Nokia in theory shouldn't have to worry about Apple patents.

Yes but the deal could very well be that they are not allowed to sell it in X/Y/Z country?

I dont say this is the case just my guess, based on how bussiness works sometimes...

mikecomputing | # 5238 | 2011-09-05, 16:09 | Report

Originally Posted by ericsson View Post

Why is marxian thanking you for this "useful" post

Anyway, what I said was that WP will eventually take over for the N9 or Harmattan if you will.

It is getting a bit clearer now. UK, Ge, Esp, NL and possibly It will get he first batch of WP phones, codename Searay. The rest of Europe, S America, Russia and Asia will get the N9. This will happen within a month. Sometime during the first half of 2012, the new Nokia WP flagships will arrive world wide incl USA.

Within a month we will also see the 600, 700 and 701 with Belle. In 2-3 months Belle will be available for all Symbian^3 devices. The new camera monster, the 801, will come soon as well, with Belle.

Harmattan/MeeGo will go away, but Swipe will not. Swipe is here to stay, it's a question of how and where.

Waiting for Symbian Belle 3 month for old S^3 is just another Nokia FAIL.

atm my workmobile (bought it for NFC testing ) Nokia C7 still is unusable after Anna upgrade. Now I cant instal apps from OviStore WTF!!?

Thats how MrFlop got Symbian be even better. Just kick out 7000 engineer and make sure Symbian fails even more.

Mr Flop is a ****ing ashole IMHO...

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mikecomputing | # 5239 | 2011-09-05, 16:15 | Report

Originally Posted by hotnikkelz View Post

@danramos
I disagree with you when you said that marketing won't help Microsoft. Whereas Vista sucked and so did the Zune, WP does not suck. Well it did, but the updates will change that. It is actually kinda good....for Microsoft. GOOD marketing will help it. Your examples simply point out bad marketing strategies imo.

@mikecomputing
Your optimism is really amazing. FOSS only survives when there's good investment and a STRONG backing of people behind it. Both of which have been dwindling heavily of late. No doubt the platform had potential, but by itself that it is not enough. It is not looking too compelling right now.

The way I look at Meego now is one that has been SABOTAGED from the beginning. I've been following Meego from the start, and the ***** was just soooo slow to grow. It has to be the slowest FOSS projects I've ever seen, and it was 'formerly' backed by TWO very powerful brands Nokia and Intel, yet it just can't see the light of day after what 3-5 years?? why is that? Lack of investment, marketing, closed dev community among a shitload of other things. To top if off Elop just put a big *** nail in its coffin.

Okey in a way I agree. Meego may very well FAIL in its "todays form." But the core libs are the same as Fedora/Ubuntu.

So it may very well success in a different form.

Maybe More like Harmattan Meego (or Maemo6)+KDEPlasma+Qt something.

This is already the case for N900 CE today. I am testing N900 CE image every week now and it IS progressing forward even if trolls in this forum who hasnt even bother too test is saying its dead.

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ericsson | # 5240 | 2011-09-05, 16:25 | Report

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post

Waiting for Symbian Belle 3 month for old S^3 is just another Nokia FAIL.

atm my workmobile (bought it for NFC testing ) Nokia C7 still is unusable after Anna upgrade. Now I cant instal apps from OviStore WTF!!?

Thats how MrFlop got Symbian be even better. Just kick out 7000 engineer and make sure Symbian fails even more.

Mr Flop is a ****ing ashole IMHO...

LOL, you need a loooong vacation away from anything looking like a phone.