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    ericsson | # 5891 | 2011-09-14, 17:55 | Report

    Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
    Seems Elop is REALLY hated now on this forum by almost everyone.

    Oh well let's hope he is fired when the board realise just what damage he has actually done to what could have been a surviving company with a few problems now turned bad enough to actually sink them, maybe this is his plan?.
    LOL

    Careful, you sound more and more like some doomsday group of fanatics.

    NOKIA WILL DIE !!!!

    Why? because eFlop = satan

    Whohohohohooooooooooo


    Grow up kids, it's way past pathetic now.

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    jalyst | # 5892 | 2011-09-14, 17:58 | Report

    Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    or totally uncompetitive worker costs of the Finland manufacturing plants.
    They have a huge network of plants all over Asia, South America, & some in EU.
    Their manufacturing is not all done in Finland, far from it...
    There was a map a fews back on one of the news sites, CBF'd digging it up.
    But most of the points you made were solid, just thought I'd point this out though.

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    danramos | # 5893 | 2011-09-14, 17:58 | Report

    Originally Posted by eMiL View Post
    I bet the case is as follows:

    Nokia board of directors have been gathering for Friday sauna since late 2008 and after the N900 was released in 2009 they started reading up on TMO, just for kicks and giggles. It didn't take long before they discovered several members complaining about the tablet, about it not being a true IT. They were greatly amused by this, as the N900 was obviously an internet tablet with the additional phone functionality. One thing that they were particularly amused by was users who didn't even own the device, who still ranted on and on about how flawed, overpriced, under-speced and bulky it was etc.

    Then came 2011. When the first hands on's of the newly announced successor of the N900, namely the N9, started going around the internets with nothing short of glowing first impressions, the board got a little bit uncomfortable. "If the whiners and complainers buy the N9, and are happy about the product, what happens to our Friday sauna-lolz?": they said. This is when they came up with the pricing of the N9. "There we go! Too expensive for the trolls! Now our Friday saunas are safe, FOREVER!!"
    I like that. QUICK! Somebody go to Wikipedia's NOKIA entry and put that in!!

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    ericsson | # 5894 | 2011-09-14, 17:59 | Report

    Originally Posted by eMiL View Post
    I bet the case is as follows:

    Nokia board of directors have been gathering for Friday sauna since late 2008 and after the N900 was released in 2009 they started reading up on TMO, just for kicks and giggles. It didn't take long before they discovered several members complaining about the tablet, about it not being a true IT. They were greatly amused by this, as the N900 was obviously an internet tablet with the additional phone functionality. One thing that they were particularly amused by was users who didn't even own the device, who still ranted on and on about how flawed, overpriced, under-speced and bulky it was etc.

    Then came 2011. When the first hands on's of the newly announced successor of the N900, namely the N9, started going around the internets with nothing short of glowing first impressions, the board got a little bit uncomfortable. "If the whiners and complainers buy the N9, and are happy about the product, what happens to our Friday sauna-lolz?": they said. This is when they came up with the pricing of the N9. "There we go! Too expensive for the trolls! Now our Friday saunas are safe, FOREVER!!"
    Not a single N9 has been sold as of yet. The prices we see are simply guesswork by resellers. When it starts selling, the prices will drop 30-40% to a more correct level within 3-4 weeks.

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    danramos | # 5895 | 2011-09-14, 17:59 | Report

    Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
    ofcourse you can cut prices by manufactoring in China or other lowprice countrys where the workers is payed half or even lower salary.

    Question is if thats good for European and US as countrys in the long run!?

    Those price comparisions should deal with those facts too..
    Where are the N9's being made? Surely not in Finland... probably not even in Europe. Certainly not while good ol' sh*t-eating grinning ex-Microsoft Canadian Elop's in charge.

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    mikecomputing | # 5896 | 2011-09-14, 18:07 | Report

    Originally Posted by hotnikkelz View Post
    huh?? what does software optimization have anything to do with what I mentioned? I mentioned nothing of performance, only manufacturing components.
    eg A dual core processor COSTS more than an older single core processor unless I'm mistaken
    So you think engineer working with core OS/optimizing etc... is doing this for free?

    As already said. there is plenty of reason N9 maybe has higher prices than for example samsung. You can't just compare components and saying XXX or YYY is lo/higherprice.

    Biggest reason is probadly engineering work and factory costs. AFAIK most of the phones made by Nokia is done in it own factorys. And not licenced like many of the ANdroid phones. Just one of many reason.

    N9 MAY be overpriced BUT we cant just compare it this way.

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    slarti | # 5897 | 2011-09-14, 18:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by danramos View Post
    Where are the N9's being made? Surely not in Finland... probably not even in Europe. Certainly not while good ol' sh*t-eating grinning ex-Microsoft Canadian Elop's in charge.
    Some are made in Salo (Finland) and I think some in (Romania) edit: Great Britain (Europe)...

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    Bernard | # 5898 | 2011-09-14, 18:09 | Report

    Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
    They have a huge network of plants all over Asia, South America, & some in EU.
    Their manufacturing is not all done in Finland, far from it...
    There was a map a fews back on one of the news sites, CBF'd digging it up.
    But most of the points you made were solid, just thought I'd point this out though.
    very true. Also "made in Finland" is a very relative term. Like you said Nokia has a lot of plants all over the world, and also outsources a lot to Chinese manufacturers. Most adapters, cables etc. are made in china that way.
    When a phone is "made in Finland" it only means that the last part of assembly is done in Finland. The chips, screen, electronic board, even the housing parts can all be made at a different (cheaper) location, and the phone can still be called "made in Finland".

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    slarti | # 5899 | 2011-09-14, 18:15 | Report

    Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
    AFAIK most of the phones made by Nokia is done in european. And not Asia like many of the ANdroid phones.
    Nokia has huge factories and subcontractors all over Asia. Most high-end phones are manufactured in Europe, though.

    There was just a study by Finnwatch about Nokia factories in India that criticized the wages paid by Nokia. Link to PDF.

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    ericsson | # 5900 | 2011-09-14, 18:17 | Report

    Originally Posted by danramos View Post
    Where are the N9's being made? Surely not in Finland... probably not even in Europe. Certainly not while good ol' sh*t-eating grinning ex-Microsoft Canadian Elop's in charge.
    How about keeping your racist remarks to yourself for a change?

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