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jalyst | # 61 | 2012-01-14, 14:57 | Report

Originally Posted by SamGan View Post

But Elop is sh1t-scared of the N9 eating Lumia for lunch so an improved N9 model with RGB S-Amoled will be low on Nokia's priority.
Better hope that Lumia flops and Elop gets booted out.

He's been quite responsive to other complaints we've lodged with him in the past.
But yes, I've always been weary of approaching him directly...
I still don't trust that when "push comes to shove", he really has our interests at heart.
He likes to present the ideal that a Nokia customer is a Nokia customer, WP or not.
But sometimes that seems like a bit of an act....

Having said all that, he really has nothing to worry about anyway...
Apollo will have feature parity* w/Maemo6x (maybe surpass), & it'll finally support beefier hardware.
Once that happens it's game over for mass-adoption of Maemo6x/N9, not that there was much of a chance before.
Adoption rates may even drop-off to lower than they were for the N900 at the same point.
As at that point there'll be about 4 top-to-mid end WP handsets, & more on the way.
And some new Symbian high-ends coming, or on-board...

*or will at least come close.

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SamGan | # 62 | 2012-01-15, 02:25 | Report

Apollo isn't competing with Maemo6x/N9, it is competing with iphone and Android. As it will be out only in Q3/Q4 it is so late to the party that it may as well not come. By then iphone 5 and quad core Android phone will be out.

Mango isn't even on par with current ios and Android 4 by a long shot. Here's an honest review of Mango by a reviewer who bought his own phone, not one given F.O.C. by Nokia. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...ia-800-goodbye

The prospect for WP7 is bleak. Nokia still hasn't released figures but some reports say it has sold far short of 1 million in Europe in Q4'11. This is a failure despite the huge marketing as even the N8 based on the sunset Symbian sold 4 million in its 1st Q. In India and China WP7 will fail (too many reasons to state here) while U.S. is the last great hope. The rest of the world including Oz doesn't care about WP7.

In U.S. the Nokia brand is associated with cheap flip phones for oldies while Microsoft is an unloved monopolist. WP7 penetration so far is only 5%. Will Lumia make it here? It better or Nokia is doomed. Another company will gobble up a weak and battered Nokia who bet on the wrong horse.

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gerbick | # 63 | 2012-01-15, 04:09 | Report

The more I look at it, the more it bothers me that Harmattan is as complete as it is with anemic funding but a passionate group that produced something that's pretty damn good... but feels incomplete.

Windows Phone 7, well... it's a basic restart by Microsoft that also feels incomplete. I have an N9, went on a trip overseas, made my way back to WP7 because of a few things that I actually missed - performance was not one of them, which Microsoft touts all of the time. It was a few apps that make my life simpler... Google Analytics via PhoneAnalytics, WhatsApp, (better system for) Browser Bookmarks... and a few other contact positives.

But I'm not your average user - neither are any of the TMO members. I actually dislike holding a phone to my ear, so bluetooth better be flawless. I can't say that for the N9. It didn't like my car stereo - which paired with my Android, iPhone and WP7 phones without incident. It would sometimes ring in my Bose Series 2 earpiece, sometimes it wouldn't.

The N9 would sometimes hang up if I put somebody on hold. WP7 sometimes would hang up when I was switching between calls (prior to Mango). The battery life on both aren't really something I'd write home to anybody about but I find that my WP7 is lesser than my N9 on heavy usage.

But back to my statement about not being a typical phone user. I've figured out that I want a simple phone experience. In, out, informed in a moment's glance. Both WP7 and Harmattan give me that. I miss the time and notifications on my screen. Hell, I miss double tapping my screen to wake it up - man, I've been tapping on my monitors, my Xoom and TouchPad tablets, hell... I think I double tapped my car stereo!

But WP7 is a pretty easy to use OS. Harmattan is an easy to use OS. But as it stands, there's just a few apps that I want that Harmattan doesn't have. That and Skype video - which WP7 doesn't have yet either.

The only thing that bothers me, I know I'll be going back to my N9 once PR1.2 comes out. But there will be no Skype video calling. Just video calling via other means. They get that, they have a killer app. Skype is just so well built-in.

Lumia 900 in the US... means that everybody will think that I will have one of those phones when honestly I have the N9. That also aggravates me.

Oh well...

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Pachino3486 | # 64 | 2012-01-16, 01:58 | Report

Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 View Post

HA! I have the exact same story, but in a T-Mobile store! The T-Mo Dude was all like, "Oooh! The Lumia!" and I went, "Actually...it's the Nokia N9." And he goes, "Woah, really? Hey Mario! [his colleague] check it out..... MeeGo!" And holds up the N9 to show his co-worker on the other side of the store. We had a good time, he cut my old T-Mo sim for me and we booted the N9 up and he was GAGA over the swiping and the smoothness. He kinda whispered the Lumia 900 was going to at&t, so he must've had some inkling as this was about 2 weeks ago. But he said he really liked it, and the customer waiting next to me (Android fan) was impressed too. He said he had no idea Nokia could make something so cool, the last time he saw a Nokia it was when Snake first came out!
I left that store feeling positive and knowing that in my pocket, was a rare species. New York City might be an ocean of aging, dull iPhones, but I got myself a beautiful sleek blue shark, seldom seen in these parts

I had the same experience at the AT&T store on 5th ave an 48th street in manhattan. Went to get myself a micro sim for my N9 and the AT&T reps were going crazy over my N9.

I am due for an upgrade since last week and i will get the Lumia 900 when it comes out and keep it as a back up phone for work.

bandora | # 65 | 2012-01-16, 02:46 | Report

So can we put MeeGo on the Lumia 900? that's the question that we need to work on!

slashd0t | # 66 | 2012-01-16, 03:04 | Report

my big issue is that Nokia has bet the entire farm on Microsoft. What company even finds it acceptable to put the entire future of the company on another company?! Seriously, Microsoft owns Nokia right now..

What if Microsoft drops WP tomorrow? Nokia has no control or say in their future. Only control over hardware and Nokia drive..

Nokia is now just a hardware oem with no leverage.

blah ..

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SamGan | # 67 | 2012-01-16, 03:15 | Report

Originally Posted by slashd0t View Post

Nokia has no control or say in their future. Only control over hardware and Nokia drive..

Nokia is now just a hardware oem with no leverage.

blah ..

In terms of hardware, the only control Nokia has is the design of the casing. The specs for WP7 hardware are controlled by Microsoft and are very tight. For example there is very little scope for a cheap WP7 phone.

As for Nokia Drive and Nokia Music they have been cracked and can be installed on any WP7 phone.

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slashd0t | # 68 | 2012-01-16, 03:40 | Report

Originally Posted by SamGan View Post

In terms of hardware, the only control Nokia has is the design of the casing. The specs for WP7 hardware are controlled by Microsoft and are very tight. For example there is very little scope for a cheap WP7 phone.

As for Nokia Drive and Nokia Music they have been cracked and can be installed on any WP7 phone.

Very true..

No NFC etc.. Just junk IMO. I have no clue how Nokia's board would even consider allowing this mole into the company. People can't say the same about Samsung, LG etc because they have diversified their business into many areas (TV's, dishwashers etc). Nokia basically just have phone shells. How crazy can they be?

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qorax | # 69 | 2012-01-16, 13:32 | Report

RUMOR: Other Carriers Can Sell Nokia Lumia 900 By Mid-2012
http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/sup...mid2012-141907
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*Probably it's hinted @ other global markets, not the U.S.

rm42 | # 70 | 2012-01-16, 14:31 | Report

I wonder if this applies to Nokia Windows Phones:

http://www.phonenews.com/microsoft-i...ndows-8-19713/

If so, one more reason NOT to buy these devices.