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2012-10-04 , 20:46
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#1651
I think you don't get the approach of Mer project and its derivatives. Do your homework first:

http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...er/484215.html
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page
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#1652
So please explain what I don't understand. I'm looking at all the latest changes of mer from the 3 of Oct. How does them fit into Jolla's model. At some point they have to ignore and prepare for release in their own bransh. that's the version I'm looking for.
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So please explain what I don't understand. I'm looking at all the latest changes of mer from the 3 of Oct. How does them fit into Jolla's model. At some point they have to stop ignore and prepare for release. that's the version I'm looking for.
Most probably they have cloned git months ago and are working somewhere else with thr source, they'll release it after sales are up
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Yep, I guess they took some Mer release as a base, and use it for starters to build first complete product (you'll have to wait to see what release it was). In the future they'll update it with newer core (i.e. newer Mer releases). Commercial product can hardly use a rolling release model, so they'll probably establish some update cycle (hopefully not very long one).

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Most probably they have cloned git months ago and are working somewhere else with thr source, they'll release it after sales are up
They contribute back to the core repo, so it's not like they branched it and left off.
 
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2012-10-04 , 21:03
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That is what I mean. And that is the version I'm looking for. And in the end. They might not use the open mer branch any more but running their own branch all the time. And if that's the case, they don't really need mer anymore.
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2012-10-04 , 21:09
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No, they said they are committed to openness and community nature of Mer, so I'm sure they won't stop using it.

See Jussi Hurmola's talk, where he explains that if they drop their ties with the community, it'll make things much worse for them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7vozx-pqN8

Luckily Jolla is run by people who understand and value open source, unlike Oracle and others who only exploit it for their advantage but don't understand its value and principles.
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That is what I mean. And that is the version I'm looking for. And in the end. They might not use the open mer branch any more but running their own branch all the time. And if that's the case, they don't really need mer anymore.
That would be a maintenance nightmare. Nokia did just this with Maemo 5 - they took Clutter 0.8 & some old GTK version and slapped a boatload of patches to it. It took the Cordia dev quite a while to rebase it all back to upstream GTK & Clutter.

They definitely want to keep up with Mer and upstream as much as possible - its in their interest - otherwise they would have to maintain their own fork themselves and do complicated merge/rebase every time Mer introduces some new feature they want/need.

BTW, this is the main Mer Gerit patch review - basically the gateway for what gets inside Mer.

Notice: The above post might contain misunderstandings & technical errors.
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"@SfietKonstantin: #Jolla fans, install the jolla countdown on your harmattan device (from apps.formeego testing, or apt-get install jollacountdown)"
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Oh my god, I can't stop counting down in Milliseconds now
 
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"@SfietKonstantin: #Jolla fans, install the jolla countdown on your harmattan device (from apps.formeego testing, or apt-get install jollacountdown)"
I wonder if this (=all the fans rushing to apps.formeego) is why apps.formeego is so horribly slow on my N9
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