I don't think so.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-lumia...educed-design/

In Finland, Lumia 800 starts at 290 USD, and Lumia 900 at 410 USD. It's very similar prices across Europe.


..Helsinki was a bit of a downer today but NYSE is off to a good start at +4%.

Keep buying, it will only go up. However much one may hate MS, they have the money to be a viable player. NOKIA is worth way more than $3.

Good point, I didn't realize that Microsoft all of a sudden had gotten enough money to be a viable player after se7en generations of failing as a mobile OS provider.

I say thank you to gerbick, dan, and the others whom I have had the pleasure to spar with on this forum, thanks to those who have contributed here, and I'll bite my tongue instead of saying what I feel about the triple headed troll in here.

I'll probably come back here some time, but for now, have a pleasant travel and I hope you do find a viable open platform that'll let you do everything some day.

Dont be hating, wherever you go

I personally would hate to see you go, volt. But if you do leave, best of luck on all of your endeavors.

I guess Fins are getting a bum deal because Lumias are selling OK there. In the UK carphone warehouse and the major supermarkets have been knocking out the 800 at around £140 (approx EUR 175 or USD 225).

My experience of manufacturing also makes me believe the $8 manufacturing cost they've estimated in the article is too low. I doubt even if they used slave labour like Apple could they get to that, especially whilst their volumes are so low because that makes their fixed costs per unit high.

For argument's sake though let's assume the article is right, the manufactured cost really is $217. With a sales price of $225 that gives a gross margin of 3.56%

That seems to be the price with a contract, which means that Nokia gets lots more money from it. According to their website, the sim free price of Lumia 800 is £379.95!

No it's not: http://www.noknok.tv/2012/11/22/noki...cheap-in-pink/

Phones4U have just dropped them to £116

People: look at the big picture, don't use microscope. In the end, what benefit the user also benefits the producer. Lumias have been way overpriced. WP is selling 4x today than a year ago.

Selling at a loss or even a razor thin gross margin does not benefit a manufacturer.

Remember the 'ecosystem' means nothing to NOKIA now, Elop gifted all that to Microsoft. NOKIA need to make healthy margins on hardware sales, either that or they need to give up manufacturing altogether and just become a design house.