qwazix | # 61 | 2013-02-02, 20:48 | Report

BB10 is still too buggy to be sold as a premium product. The android runtime crashes randomly and requires reboot, the browser starts to flash sometimes while rendering, the recent calls list doesn't refresh until you change views and messages in Greek some times are sent normally and sometimes only squares. I'm sure I've missed more of them too.

gerbick | # 62 | 2013-02-04, 05:19 | Report

What build are you running? My experience hasn't been that bad since the earlier builds.

qwazix | # 63 | 2013-02-04, 07:16 | Report

10.9.10.35

Bundyo | # 64 | 2013-02-04, 21:05 | Report

http://www.thorstenfixplease.co.uk/

Not that we didn't have a good share of similar issues with N9 too

MartinK | # 65 | 2013-02-04, 21:47 | Report

Oh, so that Crackberry thread went viral ?

Slocan | # 66 | 2013-02-04, 22:04 | Report

BB was quite agressive in setting deadlines for submitting apps (port-a-thons, $10000 pledge, dev alpha exchange...) that most developers submitted their half-baked app quickly, just to get in there. BB went for numbers, rather than quality, for their launch. Once the dust settles, I'd expect a lot of these apps to be updated to become more useful, or to go down in rating hell, forgotten in the store's abyss like most of the Android/iPhone apps.
But right now, their app world is a bit lacking...

qwazix | # 67 | 2013-02-04, 23:04 | Report

some more thoughts: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=296

Estel | # 68 | 2013-02-05, 02:26 | Report

Ok, just for a little break of all this gestures/UI nonsense - what about system? If, talking about FOSS and holding to linux standards, (lack of) binary blobs etc, we put Maemo5 on one end of line (despite, that it wasn't ideal in those term), and Harmattan on the opposite (aka muuuch further from what FOSS and linux enthusiast expect), where this new blackberry would be?

Or it is even further away from being true mobile computer (with phone functionality) than harmattan was?

/Estel

Hariainm | # 69 | 2013-02-05, 02:50 | Report

@Estel
I don't know where you would put WinPho in that line... is really Harmattan such at the end of the line for you?

gerbick | # 70 | 2013-02-05, 03:53 | Report

wow, just wow.

I guess Harmattan was perfect. As was Maemo 5. Oh well... back to the earlier discussion. Qwazix, we're running the same version, which is not the final retail version - there's quite a few iterations in-between that actually include Twitter and LinkedIn integration.

Anyway, after 3 days of battling with AT&T over which data plan I need, they finally listened and I got 4G LTE for the device. It works as I'd expect. Some odd things I've had happen - it'll flip to landscape when the phone rings and it's as vertical as you can get in my hands. Same for text messages.

Getting to mail, not going directly to the hub but directly through the notifications page has yielded some odd things. Sometimes it'll go to the right account - I have three set up - or sometimes it won't.

I could compare this to my N9 experiences whereas the mail app would just freak the **** out and not know where I wanted to go, stall and I'd swipe past where I want to go thinking that it had not registered my input. Meh, it happens.

Having Qt isn't enough it seems. Having some of the crappiest, quickest built apps and/or Android re-wrapped apps isn't what I'd call a popular way to go, but they did it. Let's hope that the popular apps come sooner than later. That's more than can be said for MeeGo/N9.

Regardless... was this launch flawless? No. It reeks of desperation. But I remember fondly how flawed the iPhone and Google Android launches were.

But like Jolla, Firefox OS and even Tizen, I wish BB10 a lot of luck. I'm tired of Android and iOS. They bore me.

Oh... and it seems that the final OS has "leaked" out if you know where to look. I'll update in a bit.