nokiabot | # 11 | 2013-06-23, 18:24 | Report

Oh man i was just happy that u were online again
i dont want to argue but would say that all the points i made are strictly valid

i reall cant cope up with u guys as u guys are just digital and m like analogue?? Dont know what to say i am fairly good at hardware level i.e fixing modding creating but lately after joining this forum i came to know why i fail miserably in some parts . The reason is i can get inside hardware but dont know a bit on how the software reacts or simply what to do on software side
currently bme is the hottopic thats eating my mind


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TheoX | # 12 | 2013-06-23, 18:36 | Report

Well that was a relevant answer for me and OP. Just teach the guy to screw up his crippled phone with a hair drier... Good for you mate. And your reply was exactly like one of those girls at a beauty pageant: Just say something about "world peace" and maybe they will go away. You say you are good @ hw, you laughed at me about my soldering iron ideea and failure, and you say all those things while you use a hair drier on your circuit boards?

As I said OP, DON'T DO IT, read the link I attached, and those ARE REALLY TESTED METHODS. Hope that tutorial will help you!

nokiabot | # 13 | 2013-06-23, 19:23 | Report

Ah again arguing and caught the point of hair drier that i recomended him as he wont have a hot air gun as i have
and as per you its true that they can cause extensive (umm full permenant damage) to the device if not used accordingly
in this operation its just needed to quicken the process of drying the board of ethyl . Say just hover over the bourd avove 2cm for 15 seconds and its done . So you dont have to wait 15 minutes to dry it up
as for the alchol part just dip the tip of the brush so that low amount is used each time

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as for me i dont even consider them as problems like usb, network issues,fried parts like charging .ics, no audio ,no display light etc its just a matter of minuts for me to find the rouge.
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your idea of soldering iron clearly states your inability to understand what to do and common sence for this kind of stuff and the skills to blame that you heavyly lack do some homework before actualy trying something

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oth are u pissed at me?? No use ! You might be but i wont be

nokiabot | # 14 | 2013-06-23, 19:25 | Report

And you theox please delete the quote yo quoted even i marked that do not quote just humble request

TheoX | # 15 | 2013-06-23, 19:45 | Report

You really must be kidding right? You admitted that the hair drier or air gun can cause damage, but you still recommend it, because, u just flap your device in front of it and "hope" nothing gets damaged... Man you are really a hypocrite, no offense but this is you on these replies. Exactly as you were on the W8 thread.

This guy have a temporary crippled phone, that can be recovered easily and that can work perfect afterwards, but you recommend a method that can damage the whole PCB internal circuitry.

As for what I tried, I already had a dead device, and I was missing a proper soldering station and professional toolkit to proper reflow/reball the chips. So for me it was already a dead end, I tried that, because it was a small chance to work, and why not take that chance? But I see you lack the ability to understand some stuff, or is it just your indian ego... that you are an expert in hw and you can never be wrong.

Look what, stop being so hypocrite. It's better for your health.

P.S. I don't think you really understand the point of quoting posts. Lrn2Forum before really use a forum, or ... that wasn't really written in the N900 service manual? We can make a thread about that, so they can add it in the manual.

nokiabot | # 16 | 2013-06-23, 20:06 | Report

Lol theox yup m new to the forum game
and again it wont damage the pcb if he dosent use it
water dosent dry up easily inside phones specialy under the display and those sheilds also the contact points magicaly retain water that causes oxydation which in turn with the help of moisture shorts circuits that damages components and worst things happen when its left like that the layout corrodes to unusuablity and on such cases making a jumper is also very hard even for skilled ones
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and i belive the said case for op as i have seen plenty of em

i dont have a camera gud enough with me or i would have cleard yours and ESTELS doubt who directly says its not possible to flash n900 without usb?? Damm he is a modding techic like me and so arrogant ??
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nokiabot | # 17 | 2013-06-23, 20:13 | Report

And a clear point .
If anyone wants to ensure his device to be ok if he dip it in water the first thing to do would be pull out battery and let it dry till you belive its dry enough dont even try to check by turning on the device that its working or not or even click a button to turn on the screen after u just dipped it . Just remove battery let it dry if possible clean with ethyl and start using it
most damage happens when people try to check wet device if its working or not

TheoX | # 18 | 2013-06-23, 20:23 | Report

Before even replying again, please learn how to use proper english, and even if you use abbreviations, use them in their place. When you write a long post it's a headache to understand what the hell you meant to say.

Water don't dry easily, yes, but it's a more safe method to use silica (or rice) and a hot room (it's summer right now, and outside temps are >30C and humidity <10-20%) so the drying process will be faster in these conditions (because we don't talk generally, we talk to try help an user with a problem NOW). Still, you turn around at 180 degrees with every reply you give me, by saying this method is good, then you change your mind that is not good, then again that is good (with an air gun) and now again that is not good and he should not use it.

Also, if i really deserve a warn, or a ban for saying this, I can proudly accept it: but you just went full ret*rd... "yours and ESTELS doubt who directly says its not possible to flash n900 without usb". When did I state that it's not possible to flash the N900 without an USB? It's possible via service port and JTAG, but it's not as easy as using Maemo Flasher. And I am sorry, but you are the only arrogant person around here, and call me racist if you want, but that's the way all indians are, so I cant blame you, I just blame your whole race and get this over with.

And please stop replying with stupid arguments on this user's thread. I hope he will fix his device using Estel's, picholo's or my advices.

If you have something to prove, make a new thread, stop being offtopic, and making me be offtopic just to explain you why you are offtopic, and make a new thread in which we can argue as long as we want.

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nokiabot | # 19 | 2013-06-23, 20:49 | Report

Going to sleep pretty late anyway raceism is bad
i do handle a lot of phones with hardware problems so its the experience that says and the water wont dry easily with rice or silica it woud take atleast 48 hours
and i really dont know how a seemingly hardware problem be cured with software maybe i am arrogant and yup my knowledge is too crude
and what i offerd was a simple and effective cure even noobs can do it
and you said jtag na its awful has too much problems offensive support like good hwk i do own that jtag but mxkey is the master for now
anyway i said to flash by soldering wires to the fbus pins that u surely can do via maemo flasher as u woudnt have acess to boxesit has its hurdles of its own but doable by investing some time
all the methords i said in any post are personally tried by me
yup my english is bad but m improving hoping 65% on the upcoming results at least wish me luck on that

nokiabot | # 20 | 2013-06-23, 20:50 | Report

Ouch ! I forgot to ask u still pissed