ggabriel | # 681 | 2013-11-30, 11:30 | Report

This is where I asked: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...49#post1390849

att | # 682 | 2013-11-30, 11:31 | Report

But not like N9 which has the twitter tweets directly on the notification screen. Jolla has only twitter logo and number of new tweets on its notification screen. You have to click it to open separate twitter screen.

strongm | # 683 | 2013-11-30, 11:53 | Report

This is beginning to sound exactly like the problem the N9 had when Microsoft updated the mfe protocol used by outlook.com - and which was fixed by Sergey Kashin's MeMailSettings tool over a year ago. Could Jolla simply have simply regurgitated the N9's outdated mfe implementation?

bockersjv | # 684 | 2013-11-30, 11:59 | Report

Yes, I know what you mean, but it does open the last 10 or so tweets within the phone and there is then a drag down for the rest of twitter (which opens the browser version).
I think the framework is probably there to have a social feed like the N9 but it has not been implemented.

gerbick | # 685 | 2013-11-30, 12:04 | Report

Yeah, and that response wasn't one that I'd consider a definite answer. Sorry, but if anybody tells me that they didn't have any bluetooth issues, I question that immediately because it was a serious problem on the N9.

My biggest problem though, it seems as if - and this is going to sound harsher than I intend - a whole lot of folks are using a smartphone, be it the N9 or Jolla, for everything but making cellphone calls and testing if the bluetooth works or does not. Same for streaming music via bluetooth - another major issue on the N9.

Until that's answered, I'm going to say what you've received as an answer is not significant enough to quell my concern.

Thanks for pointing it out; I knew it had been asked. I'm looking for an informed response and less of "I didn't have a problem" when it clearly existed.

kollin | # 686 | 2013-11-30, 12:05 | Report

We should stop comparing jolla with n9! It's a different phone with different OS and completely different UX paradigm.

P.S. And n9 is already a zombie .

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ggabriel | # 687 | 2013-11-30, 12:10 | Report

gerbick: I totally get your point. Anything that is said now regarding antenna, bluetooth, call quality, etc. is only preliminary. I did read that someone used it with the car's bluetooth and it worked fine, same with Nokia 360. It is very early stages, but it is a beginning.

I already ordered my phone, but I was looking for something different: massive red flags, this is why I ask to compare it with another phone. I know my N9, I know my 5800, I am aware of a few others (e.g., Nexus 5 doesn't match N9's reception in the same low reception area, nor does it match the iPhone 4's).

Again, these aren't thorough tests, but they give you an idea. In my experience the N9 failed with a bluetooth headset (or earset maybe, not sure how to qualify it) the minute I used it. The fact that somebody else was successful the very first time tells me that there is a possibility that it's better, which works for me :-)

EDIT: since I'm here, it was also mentioned that WLAN was quite good, at least better than an Android tablet (but that's easy...). N9's is a bit poor, at least in comparison with a Nokia 5800.

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zlatko | # 688 | 2013-11-30, 12:11 | Report

@kollin
I have to disagree with you - it is very useful to compare Jolla to N9 as we want to "measure" the Jolla performance&experience. So N9 act as a measurement unit - nearly everybody on TMO have had one, so saying something is better/worse on Jolla gives us quite good an idea. E.g. earpiece volume(said to be better on Jolla).

ggabriel | # 689 | 2013-11-30, 12:14 | Report

No, we shouldn't. We should compare the hardware as much as we can. It is extremely useful for people to know that The Jolla performs better reception-wise than the N9 or performs worse, to quote an example. If it isn't the N9, it can be another phone, so that people get an idea.

At the very least, it is very useful for me.

Software-wise, I'm roughly with you - Sailfish will grow, there are things we won't have or we'll have to pay for (e.g., swype keyboard), but that's about it. It is a bit of a leap of faith, since if these guys fail, the software won't grow, hence I'm supporting them with my order.

N9 a zombie? It's still my main phone, and I wouldn't change it for anything (except, maybe, The Jolla ;-) ), not sure what you're talking about...

Now, back to topic, did I say that we need more videos? :-)

kollin | # 690 | 2013-11-30, 12:15 | Report

How can you compare experience between something that you are using constantly for 2 years with something that you are using for 72 hours?

N9 is my main phone also, but i'm retiring it immediately after i lay my hands on my new jolla.

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