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    LAAK1 | # 361 | 2014-11-19, 12:50 | Report

    So no Other Half for the tablet?

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    mscion | # 362 | 2014-11-19, 12:56 | Report

    Why did Mark Shuttleworth need a $32 million goal for crowd sourcing an Ubuntu phone and Marc Dillion needed only a $380,000 goal to crowd source the Jolla Tablet?

    While this is a serious question, feel free to think of this as a joke that you can provide the punchline to!

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    Tigerroast | # 363 | 2014-11-19, 13:02 | Report

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    Why did Mark Shuttleworth need a $32 million goal for crowd sourcing an Ubuntu phone and Marc Dillion needed only a $380,000 goal to crowd source the Jolla Tablet?
    Because Mark wanted to take Ubuntu to the moon!

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    ste-phan | # 364 | 2014-11-19, 13:02 | Report

    Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
    I know your comment is tongue in cheek, but the funding goal is fairly meaningless. They will have been aiming for 5x the goal and perhaps hoping for 10x. It's just a pre-order campaign.
    "May 2015" could be software roadmap for Sailfish 2.0 delivery.

    Hardware wise, the component volume prices stagnate around 1000 - 2500 pieces.

    So this fits with the 2 x 1000 first one backer requirement.
    Don't know about the actual production batch run costs.
    But if Jolla was to truely believe in the quality of this device it would not hurt to have 2000 around receiving pretty positive reviews they are saving up for volume batches with max profit and software stability.

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    Rauha | # 365 | 2014-11-19, 13:02 | Report

    >500k now.

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    vistaus | # 366 | 2014-11-19, 13:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    Why did Mark Shuttleworth need a $32 million goal for crowd sourcing an Ubuntu phone and Marc Dillion needed only a $380,000 goal to crowd source the Jolla Tablet?

    While this is a serious question, feel free to think of this as a joke that you can provide the punchline to!
    1 Jolla tablet uses normal components. Ubuntu Edge would've used things like sapphire (or was it diamond?) glass, a quite insane CPU (for phones, that is) and 4 GB of RAM.
    2 Canonical didn't have a partnership with a manufacturer, nor any other hw to manufacture. I don't know if Jolla has for the tablet, but they do have for the Jolla Phone so they might as well have established something for the tablet with them as well or else could easily establish it due to the partnership already being there.
    3 Canonical doesn't have much funds anymore. All that Mark has put it from his own funds has nearly gone through it. And they don't make *that* much through other channels. Enough to stay alive but not enough to fund a cutting edge device. Meanwhile, Jolla is growing fast and also had a head start in comparison 'cause Nokia did let 'em off with some startup money.

    Maybe 3 isn't the most compelling reason, but 1 and 2 are.

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    Rauha | # 367 | 2014-11-19, 13:12 | Report

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    Why did Mark Shuttleworth need a $32 million goal for crowd sourcing an Ubuntu phone and Marc Dillion needed only a $380,000 goal to crowd source the Jolla Tablet?

    While this is a serious question, feel free to think of this as a joke that you can provide the punchline to!
    Maybe because Steven Lau (Jolla's largest owner) isn't as cheap as Mark Shuttleworth.

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    aegis | # 368 | 2014-11-19, 13:13 | Report

    Sailfish 2.0 looks like a nice change to the UI. Events View surely means they have to also work out all the sync issues, add account apis, fix CalDAV, CardDAV, twitter/facebook messaging...

    I'm sure I'll be adding a Jolla Tablet next year when my budget allows. I've a Nexus 7 so it's not like I 'need' one just now. Even at the full $249 it looks a decent tablet.

    I do hope they sort out the intra-EU VAT issue though. I'll be buying it for my business so shouldn't have to pay VAT. I did for my phone - people of Finland can thank me now for paying for Alex Stubb's posh shirts.

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    jalyst | # 369 | 2014-11-19, 13:14 | Report

    Csb, lol...

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    juiceme | # 370 | 2014-11-19, 13:20 | Report

    Originally Posted by vistaus View Post
    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    Why did Mark Shuttleworth need a $32 million goal for crowd sourcing an Ubuntu phone and Marc Dillion needed only a $380,000 goal to crowd source the Jolla Tablet?

    While this is a serious question, feel free to think of this as a joke that you can provide the punchline to!
    1 Jolla tablet uses normal components. Ubuntu Edge would've used things like sapphire (or was it diamond?) glass, a quite insane CPU (for phones, that is) and 4 GB of RAM.
    2 Canonical didn't have a partnership with a manufacturer, nor any other hw to manufacture. I don't know if Jolla has for the tablet, but they do have for the Jolla Phone so they might as well have established something for the tablet with them as well or else could easily establish it due to the partnership already being there.
    3 Canonical doesn't have much funds anymore. All that Mark has put it from his own funds has nearly gone through it. And they don't make *that* much through other channels. Enough to stay alive but not enough to fund a cutting edge device. Meanwhile, Jolla is growing fast and also had a head start in comparison 'cause Nokia did let 'em off with some startup money.

    Maybe 3 isn't the most compelling reason, but 1 and 2 are.
    As it happens you are missing the real reason behind the Ubuntu Edge campaign; The whole thing was designed from the start to fail as a crowdfunding attempt.

    The goal was delibrately set so high as to be unrealistic because Canonical at no point wanted to make the device. It was just a guerilla marketing stint to promote Ubuntu.

    I really do not know what they had planned to do if the target was reached in time. I have high suspicion they even did not plan that far

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