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gerbick | # 91 | 2015-10-21, 04:52 | Report

Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...s-7-8-systems/

Getting better and better.

We now have systems automatically 'upgrading' themselves from W7 and W8/.1 to W10.

Funny. Was going to post my personal experience about just this.

Wife's laptop, the one that I wanted to stay on Windows 7 just rebooted and had Windows 10. Weird part, I removed the Win10 update notification software and the rest of the crap as per many other articles.

But it still updated somehow after she had updated some security updates for Windows 7 and poof... it came back.

Great, just great.

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sponka | # 92 | 2015-10-21, 10:36 | Report

Was same update mentioned in Ars article from bluefoot's link.

Have SSD and since W10 release my fee space constantly jumps between 12 and 20 Gb, depending how much crap windows download in advance. Firts they released 4 KB's we had to remove, now they release 2 KB's (IMO just repackaged blocked ones) and claiming that W10 update through windows update is a mistake ... yea right ...

You have 30 days to revert back to Win 7 without problems, copy of old system should be on disk. One solution:

http://www.howtogeek.com/220723/how-...dows-7-or-8.1/

I'm running test machine with fast ring developer preview, purposly on old hardvare and from my experience nobody with old hardware (laptops and desktops) should consider upgrading. There are 2 areas that excell with problems -- display drivers (will probably be solved) and USB drivers (will not be solved -- go and buy new device ... talking about printers, scanners, cameras, different readers, etc ...). Computers are really faster, but with peripherial devices not working or crippled due generic drivers, well, not worth.

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ste-phan | # 93 | 2015-10-21, 11:19 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

Funny. Was going to post my personal experience about just this.

Wife's laptop, the one that I wanted to stay on Windows 7 just rebooted and had Windows 10. Weird part, I removed the Win10 update notification software and the rest of the crap as per many other articles.

But it still updated somehow after she had updated some security updates for Windows 7 and poof... it came back.

Great, just great.

Unbelievable how MS can pull this off , even by accident. Somehow they must have gathered enough data to divide the users in isolated personal users and corporate ones.

I can't imagine even if a company had only 5, 10 or 30 of those laptops and no admin passwords they wouldn't be able to sue MS for installing their spy OS uninvited and rendering peripheral or software x or y unusable.

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mr_pingu | # 94 | 2015-10-21, 12:24 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

Funny. Was going to post my personal experience about just this.

Wife's laptop, the one that I wanted to stay on Windows 7 just rebooted and had Windows 10. Weird part, I removed the Win10 update notification software and the rest of the crap as per many other articles.

But it still updated somehow after she had updated some security updates for Windows 7 and poof... it came back.

Great, just great.

Hmm can you check which KB*numbers* might have that forced-update?
I blocked "Upgrade to windows 10 home" and "KB3035583" and "KB3035583" -> yes twice, the thing popped up twice in windows update so had to hide it twice.

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Mikkosssss | # 95 | 2015-10-21, 15:34 | Report

This happened to me:
Was doing some PowerPoint stuff so I booted to windows 7. I have all updates disabled until I have time/motivation to check what to install and what not. Then I put it to sleepmode so I can continue tomorrow.

Still even when updates disabled I wake up 3am to my computer installing all updates...

gerbick | # 96 | 2015-10-21, 16:31 | Report

Originally Posted by mr_pingu View Post

Hmm can you check which KB*numbers* might have that forced-update?
I blocked "Upgrade to windows 10 home" and "KB3035583" and "KB3035583" -> yes twice, the thing popped up twice in windows update so had to hide it twice.

That looks like it - having to do that off memory since your update list(s) are reset after the update to Win10. I hid it (the update) once, removed another possible entry point via regedit, yet a security update came through, I allowed it. Then the update to Win10 happened after that, it seems.

At the end of the day, I've wiped it, installed Mint Linux on it instead out of protest. I'll keep my Surface 3 running Win10 (it's actually brilliant there with the Surface Pen) and I'll run multiple VM's on my Mac Book Pro including XP, 7, 8.1, 10, 2008 R2, 2012 R2... but those are well under my control.

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MINKIN2 | # 97 | 2015-10-21, 17:47 | Report

Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...s-7-8-systems/

Getting better and better.

We now have systems automatically 'upgrading' themselves from W7 and W8/.1 to W10.

It does not discriminate between home users and enterprise users either.

marxian | # 98 | 2015-10-21, 23:00 | Report

I haven't touched my Windoze 7 installation since Windoze 10 shipped. When I next change distros, I'll nuke it and add the free space to /.

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bluefoot | # 99 | 2015-10-23, 12:56 | Report

Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post

Unbelievable how MS can pull this off , even by accident. Somehow they must have gathered enough data to divide the users in isolated personal users and corporate ones.

I can't imagine even if a company had only 5, 10 or 30 of those laptops and no admin passwords they wouldn't be able to sue MS for installing their spy OS uninvited and rendering peripheral or software x or y unusable.

It certainly was not by accident.

I haven't applied any updates to my W7 install in over 18 months. They started shipping some updates marked as security fixes around then that bundled other stuff. I can't trust ANY updates anymore.

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endsormeans | # 100 | 2015-11-26, 17:35 | Report

uh-oh...
they are up to some shenanigans again! ( I just had to put shenanigans into a sentence...)

latest win10 update seems to be removing programs automatically for you...
upswing is ...
it saves you time having to do it yourself

what's next...do you say?

why...

windows 10 updates initiate critical system overheating...
causing spontaneous combustion...

solution:
If you want control and the last say over your own computer...
Set it on fire now before M$ does....

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/24/bew...automatically/

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