maegon9y00 | # 181 | 2017-10-13, 09:36 | Report

In the meantime, Purism it is reaching 1.7millions.


Purism, founded 2014, successfuly launched a crowdfunding campaign for the Librem 15 laptop. A second succesful campaign was made for Librem 13 laptop.

Rain start with drops and
All big brand had small beginnings

Will Purism become a robust brand?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purism,_SPC

ThomasAH | # 182 | 2017-10-13, 11:35 | Report

Seeing how Purism has already successfully manufactured a line of laptops before I perceive the Librem 5 project to be one of the more realistic initiatives to get a fully working Linux environment on a phone in a while.

Hardware wise I don't care that the phone will be slower than the newest flagships. I'm used to slow with both my N900 and Jolla 1. I suspect it will be faster than the Neo900 for example. As long as the interface runs smoothly and there's plenty of storage I'll be satisfied

Software wise I'm enthusiastic about both Gnome and KDE announcing they will try to adapt their software to work nicely on the Librem 5. How much of this can truly be realised in one year is the major question, especially seeing that development for KDE Plasma Mobile has been very slow for the last year or so. I guess I'm hoping that the Librem 5 will provide for a target device to build towards for both DE's and be a stimulus as such.

I've messed around with KDE Plasma Mobile on my Nexus 5 before, and I think it can be developed into something very nice. To name another positive example I currently have Arch linux with KDE Plsama 5 running on a Chinese tablet (the Cube i7 Book, might anyone be interested), where the touch interface works very nicely. I only needed to install a couple of extra packages to improve touch interpretation and handling and that's it. Supposedly Gnome 3 works even better out of the box. Seeing these two examples working already in practice, together with the fact that Purism will have about 1.5 to 2 million dollars at their disposal for the coming year makes me positive, overall.

I have to say find the discussion going on here (both pro's and con's mentioned) very interesting to read, especially the posts with actual new information about possible hardware and drivers for example

Amboss | # 183 | 2017-10-13, 13:29 | Report

They also published some stretch goals, but they look a bit ambitious.
Does the last one mean, they plan to run Android apps anyway but not completely isolated or they plan to run Android apps only if $10M are reached?

catbus | # 184 | 2017-10-13, 15:31 | Report

little ot, sorry

I'd rather wait for a "Lauta" phone from Chen...

juiceme | # 185 | 2017-10-13, 15:50 | Report

Well, as a qwerty device it sure has its attraction but that is just about the one and only benefit point.

If the librem device has open drivers and separate blobless HW for baseband it will beat it hands down...

ThomasAH | # 186 | 2017-10-13, 18:29 | Report

They do

As I've understood thus far: neither. The phone will run Linux with Gnome or KDE on top (or their own flavoured PureOS), nothing else. You could attempt to get emulators/virtual layers like Andbox running though No idea what the performance would be. I think gaming will be out of the question...

Fuzzillogic | # 187 | 2017-10-13, 19:27 | Report

Anbox is not an emulator nor virtual layer. It's a container, but runs on the kernel and hardware of machine itself, much like how it runs on SailfishOS. Performance should be excellent.

napaDokc | # 188 | 2017-10-13, 20:00 | Report

did you hear, that Purism is connecting to Monero.. IMHO, that's a great

https://puri.sm/posts/purism-collabo...bile-payments/

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wicket | # 189 | 2017-10-13, 22:30 | Report

What exactly is it that will be lacking support? Purism plan to mainline everything so it shouldn't matter how niche the product is. Linus' rule of "don't break userspace" means the longevity should far surpass that of Android devices or other devices driven by Android kernel forks (e.g. Jolla devices). It should be just like running any modern Linux distro on old hardware. Once supported, it should work forever.

theonelaw | # 190 | 2017-10-14, 04:38 | Report

inch by inch this is happening