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Now you see, this is interesting. running the classic mac environment on an IT is an interesting proposition. How much space did this take up on your card? By chance does full screen work?
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All you need is enough space for the operating system and any applications you want installed. Typically this will be anywhere between 20 MB to 50MB depending on which Mac OS and which components of the OS you wish installed.
You could boot up from a 1.4 MB floppy image up to a 2000 MB hard drive file image. And ... you can mount multiple hard drive files so 64 GB (~32 2GB hard drive files) of Mac stuff on two 32 SDHC cards is possible (on a N800, if you're crazy). :p The full screen doesn't work. I'm not a developer, just a script kiddie. Instead of using the latest CVS source of "Basilisk II JIT", I used an older source tarball of "Basilisk II" before the JIT engine was added. the Maemo platform didn't allow enabling JIT for the three Mac emulators (Basilisk II JIT, SheepShaver, PearPC) that I attempted building using the latest CVS source for each of them. Basilisk II runs faster than Basilisk II JIT with the JIT disabled, which is why earlier Maemo builds by others here were pretty slow. I would LOVE to have a real developer take over this and add full screen and\or hildonization. |
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Thanks man. If I could run this full screen I'd download it and use it instead of the built in OS stuff ( except maemomapper of course).
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Seems fun, I'd like to try. I have never used a mac!
And, a-ehm, are there on the internet any dirty and immoral places where pushers pass you a copy of a mac rom without you owning the real thing? (My questions is only to know what I have *not* to visit with my browser in order to go straight to heavens after my departure). Maybe torrents? |
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do not go to thepiratebay
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Ironically, this is yet another thing you can't do on the iPhone or iPod Touch.
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OSEmuTech, which version of microsoft office runs well on this emulator?
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One other question (osemutech will know):
the pointer arrow on the emulator is... "sticky". When I get some desktop item, the pointer won't leave it when raising my pen from the tablet screen, as if a mac mouse key were still pressed. It's very disturbing. How do you solve this? |
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I don't think mini vMac is available for the Tablets, although various folks seem to have got it going privately. |
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It's something else a real developer might be able to fix. |
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I am familiar with many of the last versions of 68k-compatible software if anyone has any questions. The next versions of Office for Mac (Office 98, 2001) can run on some ports of the SheepShaver Mac PPC emulator (runs up to Mac OS 9.04). I kept getting a error during the make phase which I haven't been able to fix. I did get the G3\G4 Mac OS X emulator called PearPC built and it runs on Maemo, but I gave up after 20 minutes or so waiting for it to boot Mac OS X Leopard. :D The emulator can be pretty slow on Windows\Linux system as it is. http://fkwjcw.bay.livefilestore.com/...sQ/ppcn800.png |
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Very cool, one question. How do I run the Scratchbox build of Basilisk? The untarred file has permissions of read and write but not execute. I tried sudo chmod but that won't change it to an executeable. I tried installing it via the Application Manager but doesn't appear to be that type of file. I have my 7.5.5 disk image, ROM image file, and Basilisk II preference file already to go. I just can't figure out how to run Basilisk :(
Appreciate any and all help. Itching to Install Wordperfect 3.5e and see how that works. For anybody who would like to try this free and very functional wordprocessor go here: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/macintosh.html |
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Why sudo? Just take the BasiliskII file from the tgz archive, put it i.e. in /home/user and do
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I have found only one place on the 'net where I could possibly *buy* an old copy of office 4.2.1 for mac.
Unfortunately, the email address is encrypted by a silly javascript which refuses to work in all the browsers I tried (microb, firefox, konqueror). Maybe it works in internet explorer and somebody can look at the following page and let me know the mail address? http://www.dans20thcenturyabandonware.com/contact.html Ah, and I admit I searched also in p2p and ehr... sites, but with no joy :( |
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Dans20thcenturyabandonware never had the programs available for download. But it was an awesome site to checkout info and screenshots of older software.
BTW: I provided a link to many auctions for Office 4.2x for Mac in post #16: eBay |
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Thanks you. Good luck!
I have a large collection of source code tarballs that cover a number of years of Basilisk II and Basilisk II JIT releases. I tried compiling around 10 of them last night, but only the one linked to in my second post compiled all the way and ran correctly on my N800. The others usually had the dreaded sigsegv error during the make phase, or when run on my N800. One of the 2005 source tarballs would compile and even had the GUI frontend for basilisk_ii_prefs editing using GTK+ 2, but the executable gave a sigsegv error when the emulation started. Most source does not recognize GTK+ 2 when configuring, so I tried compiling (&make install) GTK+ 1.2 and GLIB under Scratchbox to give the BasiliskII executable the GUI frontend, but GLIB would not compile. |
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The segfault problem when it's running is normal, as it actually puts the Mac OS in the actual address it allocates. If the Mac OS tries to access hardware directly, most parts are patched (BasiliskII doesn't emulate the hardware, it patches the Mac OS to make it think the hardware is there, and grabs the values from the driver).
And I spent an entire day hacking the other one up to make it go (it involved grabbing bits from the GP2x version). This one seems to be working OK. I got somewhere into hildonizing the last one. There was a discussion on the maemo mailing lists about how to get the icon to show up for some X apps, and it involved creating a .desktop file specifying the wm class. /usr/share/applications/hildon/basiliskii.desktop Code:
[Desktop Entry] Also, the biggest screen size you can have in non fullscreen is 720x420 pixels (win/720/420). As for the non-behaving configuration, I'll write my own. The stock one isn't terribly useful anyway. |
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Would some of you kind enough to write down some step by step guide, pleeese?
I dl the BasiliskII09.tgz -> BailiskII, and .basilisk_ii_prefs and I also got the Quad650.zip. Any help? Thanks, bun |
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Bun, get this tutorial: http://www.geocities.com/game_master107/howtoemulateamac.html
My setup is the following: I have quad650.ram, Starterdisk.hfv and a hd image I called mac-hd, all in /media/mmc1/Emu I made the hd image with the ubuntu gutsy port of BasiliskII, but the tutorial uses a win software called hfv explorer. In /home/user I have the BasiliskII executable and the .basilisk_ii_prefs file. Mine contains: disk /media/mmc1/Emu/Starterdisk.hfv disk /media/mmc1/Emu/mac-hd extfs / screen win/720/420 seriala <none> serialb <none> udptunnel false udpport 6066 rom /media/mmc1/Emu/QUAD650.ROM bootdrive 0 bootdriver 0 ramsize 209387520 frameskip 0 modelid 14 cpu 4 fpu true nocdrom true nosound false noclipconversion false nogui false keyboardtype 5 keycodes false mousewheelmode 1 mousewheellines 3 dsp /dev/dsp mixer /dev/mixer It's a slight modification of the one from osemutech. Should work this way. We should experiment, maybe, with keyboard types because "blue" chars on the n810 don't work. |
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This is awesome guys!
I couldn't call myself a 'mac fanboy', but back in the day 7.5 and 8 OS's were pleasantly fast and rarely did I ever see a bomb(crash). A lot of the office abilities were already well done and I lived next to COREL. ;) I'm just an informed user newb, but I had to put in my kudos to you guys for this endeavour. :D Keep in mind as well, there was also a great tool for interface customizing called "Kaleidoscope" than ran clean in the OS. It allowed for a large array of modifications to the windows etc. http://kaleidoscope.net/schemes/schemespotlight.shtml Boilerplate had been my favorite of all time. Anyone need an original OS? I may even have ol 7.5->8.5 in home storage somewhere. |
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And hey Apple totally completely utterly abandoned that OS to the dust heap of history while it still had loads of usability. I feel no hesitation to share any of the ol Mac stuff. :cool: I would bow in homage to the geek masters here if they can make this more accessible. :D |
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Now well, some advice from veteran mac users would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe I've been impulsive, but I am likely to buy a vintage office 4.5.1 (if no-one overrides my ebay bid). Are there any other useful thing which may complement the NIT software? What did Corel do? I am an absolute noob to macs. |
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My neglected Macintosh Emulation Station website has a lot of 68k Mac freeware, shareware, and demos that works on Basilisk II, including games. It also has tips for using Basilisk II on Windows. I've been running a forum about Mac and PC emulators and virtual machines since 1999 as well. http://mes.emuunlim.org:88/ http://mes.emuunlim.org:88/software/index.htm http://forums.delphiforums.com/MacEmulation BTW: I somehow corrupted my 8 GB SDHC card yesterday and have spent 8 hours (!) trying to format it. There goes my day off. :( |
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If all fails, try this, http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c...formatter.html It worked for me. bun |
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All else failed. That program worked! OMG! Thank you so much!!!!
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debernardis, thanks for the tip. For some reason it didn't want to run from my sd card. I used sudo because I thought it might be a permissions problem. And I highly recommend wordperfect, it is free and Word paled in comparison at the time. WP will even let you save in Word 6.0 format. WP 3.5e is still used today and has an active support at wordperfectmac yahoo group.
OSEmuTech great work! Is it possible to shift the Basilisk screen up to get rid of the white boarder at the top? Also how do I go about getting xkbd? Wasn't able to find install instructions in this forum or in google. Keep up the outstanding code. |
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I noticed the white border at the top of the emulation too. I wish I had time and the development experience for tweaking the code. It's always been a rather complicated program as it's like a Mac built via code to run on other operating systems. Hopefully t3h can knock that out as well when he tries getting the sticky mouse fixed and full screen working (that would be awesome). I'm going to check whether full screen currently works once I get my SDHC card setup again.
The build I created uses native Xwindows and esd calls instead of SDL for display and sound. SDL is known to slow things down, which is another reason why this build is faster. xkbd can be grabbed from Arnim's page: http://pupnik.de/xkbd.html It's also possible to run DOS (fast) and Windows (slow) via Arnim's DOSBox port for Maemo: http://pupnik.de/dosbox.html Check out the thread about DOSbox for more tips and alternative keyboard layouts for xkbd: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=5686 http://fkwjcw.bay.livefilestore.com/...0dbwin9503.png |
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Looks like xkbd is not supported on OS2008. Is that correct?
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That is incorrect. ;)
Go into Red Pill Mode to install the relevant packages under OS 2008. http://fkwjcw.bay.livefilestore.com/...athematica.png |
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PS: Make sure you install these debs first or you will get dependency errors.
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae..._6.5.4_all.deb http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae....2-3_armel.deb |
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O.k. friend, have to hunt for it in my old storage. I have a newborn baby so time is a little limited. ;) I may have a second original copy of OS8. If not, is it possible to burn a duplicate of an OS cd? Never tried that before. |
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If anyone wants to know how Basilisk II actually works, this is an interesting read: http://basilisk.cebix.net/TECH
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