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timsamoff 2009-08-04 16:50

Maemo Summit 2009 merchandise and design...
 
Hi,

We have been given some budget for Maemo Summit 2009 merchandise. But, rather than have all sorts of funny toys to receive at the event, it might be cooler to save most of the money for participant sponsorship and cool Summit events.

Last year, we had shirts and stickers (three sizes). Previously, we began to discuss USB Sticks (among other things). And, I know that GeneralAntilles really wants a baseball cap. ;) (Which, I personally think is a really good idea -- see below.)

I propose that we stick to the bare necessities (again) this year and limit our choices to shirts, stickers, and -- if it's cost effective -- baseball caps. If you have major objectives (or, really, really, wanted that Maemo-branded USB Stick or tote bag), you can voice them here, but think about what you'd rather have: sponsorship or something that says "Maemo" on it.

But, wait... First things first...

***We need to decide what goes on the stuff.***

There may be enough money to do a two-sided shirt, so keep that in mind. The three differently sized stickers were pretty cool last year (you can see one of them on my MacBook here -- and I think it was lcuk who was with me when we got the little stickers and put them on our N810s, although I could be wrong).

Anyway...

We have a few "cool" designs already (if you know of more, please let me know).

One is mine:
http://static.maemo.org/static/1/1dd..._2009_v002.png

...on was from baloo:
http://www.linuxuk.org/images/maemo_summit.png

...and the other from wazd:
http://s52.radikal.ru/i135/0907/6d/503ea215fcad.png

We could choose from these three (and then hone the one that was chosen to be exactly what we need), or you can submit your own idea. In fact, your idea could even just be a written description:

Quote:

Originally Posted by example description
Black t-shirt with a small maemo.org logo on the front left breast and large "Maemo Summit 2009" text on the back.

Yes, we even need to specify colors (white is always cheaper) and we should think about amount of colors to print too (less is always cheaper).

So, let's (quickly, like in the next week) decide on the two or three items that we'll have at the Summit and come up with a single good design for what we want printed on the items.

Thanks!
Tim

VDVsx 2009-08-04 16:59

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That's a very big sticker :)

andy80 2009-08-04 17:03

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If this can help to save money for other stuff, why don't we sell these gadget at a cheap price instead of giving them for free?

I know that a gift is always better, but.... I don't think it's a big cost if people are really interested in.

Don't forget about the fact the Summit has free entrance for ALL. We offer 3 days of conferences, food, party ecc... all for free :)

I think there's nothing bad if we, at least, sell t-shirts or USB keys.

timsamoff 2009-08-04 17:15

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Well, this would require a bit more infrastructure (and someone to manage money at the event), so I don't think it is feasible for an open situation like this. But, there has been some talk of opening some sort of maemo.org-specific store (on CafePress or something), where people can purchase things like this. Of course, we'd have to finalize designs used there, etc., but it would be a lot easier.

Tim

zerojay 2009-08-04 17:26

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I got bored and I have no artistic skill as you can see below but at least it's a try. ;)

sjgadsby 2009-08-04 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 308817)
Last year, we had...stickers (two sizes).

Actually, there were three: small (tablet sized), medium (laptop sized), and large (bumper sticker sized).

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy80 (Post 308822)
...why don't we sell these gadget at a cheap price instead of giving them for free?

There's still an up-front expense, so if Nokia isn't willing to "loan" the Maemo folks additional money, selling widgets is of no help. Beyond that, there's the issue of unsold merchandise, which equals unrecovered costs.

Additionally, it may be far more trouble than it's worth for the Maemo folks to set up some system of accepting money for small purchases at the summit. Nokia's accountants may not want to be troubled with the strange, small bit of money that would be coming back in. Nokia would need to send additional staff to cover the difference between free swag on a table and a sales counter. Heck, European consumer protection laws might even be a barrier if they'd force Nokia to ship a replacement Maemo LED flashlight to New Zealand after an attendee's €2 purchase stops working a week after the summit.

timsamoff 2009-08-04 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 308828)
Actually, there were three...

I'll fix this. Thanks.

Tim

Baloo 2009-08-04 19:39

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What I'd like to see:

* Black t-shirts, one sided with chest based logo.
* Black beanie hat with logo (very similar to this - http://shop.canonical.com/product_in...362170d36fd28b) - great for jogging in the cold winter months.

qgil 2009-08-04 20:19

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The Danish Weekend shirts were a big success with some original and well executed design plus just a bit of good quality in the clothes. Worth the investment and dedication.

timsamoff 2009-08-04 20:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 308874)
The Danish Weekend shirts were a big success with some original and well executed design plus just a bit of good quality in the clothes. Worth the investment and dedication.

Quim, are there any bettrer photos of the shirt than this?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/...9eee2081_m.jpg

I'd love for people to see how the design actually fits on the shirt.

Tim

Jaffa 2009-08-04 20:29

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FWIW, I've got another quote come through on USB pens: 2GB, small with a 2-tone logo on. 350 of them comes to £1,600.

In terms of designs, I like all of the above - but to anyone submitting any: feel free to go mad, but don't get upset if we don't think it's compatible with the maemo.org trademark policy :-)

asys3 2009-08-04 20:33

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I would also prefer black t-shirts.

And I think that it is a must to have "Amsterdam" mentioned there somewhere (like some examples above show).

It's like all these t-shirts you get from the concerts.
Maemo & Amsterdam 2009 - I took part.
That identifies a community.

I prefer baloos design, but if it dosn't look well on a t-shirt than I would print it without the mirror.

A baseball cap woul be nice, too.

I still have on fro former days..

Regards,
Uwe

timsamoff 2009-08-04 20:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 308879)
FWIW, I've got another quote come through on USB pens: 2GB, small with a 2-tone logo on. 350 of them comes to £1,600.

In terms of designs, I like all of the above - but to anyone submitting any: feel free to go mad, but don't get upset if we don't think it's compatible with the maemo.org trademark policy :-)

Andrew, is this something that's worth taking money away from the Summit? I'm not being facetious -- I'd really like to know if it's an important item. If so, we should reconsider the 2-3 items (shirts, USB sticks, sticker; shirts, USB sticks, hats; just shirts and USB sticks; etc.).

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-04 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 308878)
Quim, are there any bettrer photos of the shirt than this?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/...9eee2081_m.jpg

I'd love for people to see how the design actually fits on the shirt.

Tim

In the spirit of the Maemo/Danish Weekend shirts, I'd love to see a shirt that was the same color as the dark gray in the m.o header ^ with a pure orange logo/content application... I think that would look pretty slick. (Same with hats, stickers, USB sticks, whatever).

(Or, even orange base with a dark gray application on top -- I'll mock a few things up in the next day or so.)

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-04 20:56

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Thinking out loud:

We could incorporate the #maesum hash tag into the design somehow. Ever have a t-shirt with a live feed on it? ;) But, really, I'm just talking about the hash tag itself. :p

Tim

Jaffa 2009-08-04 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 308882)
I'm not being facetious -- I'd really like to know if it's an important item.

I'm not necessarily advocating them. And cost per unit is probably more than a good quality T-shirt.

Suffice to say, I'd rather have a well-designed t-shirt I could wear out rather than another USB stick.

Jaffa 2009-08-04 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 308883)
I'd love to see a shirt that was the same color as the dark gray in the m.o header ^ with a pure orange logo/content application... I think that would look pretty slick.

Agreed. I also think the logo on the front should be fairly discrete - having to shout about your logo makes you look desperate. Also, IME, the size of the logo is inversely proportional to the quality of the brand - and the T-shirt.

Some mockups:

http://bleb.org/software/maemo/summit-tshirt-front.png http://bleb.org/software/maemo/summit-tshirt-back.png

lma 2009-08-05 03:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 308900)
Suffice to say, I'd rather have a well-designed t-shirt I could wear out rather than another USB stick.

I agree, though the sticks would be a nice opportunity to distribute bits to attendees. If not USB, how about a DVD with things like (just thinking out loud) developer docs & references, training matterial, SDK scratchbox & rootstraps and/or a Virtualbox image for the lazy, a dump of repository.maemo.org source packages, Mer images etc?

qgil 2009-08-05 03:55

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I'd rather invest the money making sure there is good connectivity to download all that stuff to your preferred portable devices...

And yes, small brand but... It's funnier with bigger event identifier. Like someone said, it's comparable to the shirt of a specific concert or tour of your preferred band. A collectors piece. A very tangible and concrete souvenir of a one time community experience.

anidel 2009-08-05 10:30

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What about a 2D barcode on the back or front that points to maemo.org portal?

Texrat 2009-08-05 16:35

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I have a cafepress shop... if need be, maybe I can get test merchandise made using it? Just let me know.

timsamoff 2009-08-05 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 309108)
I have a cafepress shop... if need be, maybe I can get test merchandise made using it? Just let me know.

Thanks. Me too.

When I get a little more time (doctor and dentist appts today!)... ;)

Tim

Master of Gizmo 2009-08-06 11:38

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Please let me promote my idea for a geocoin. You can see plenty of examples at Geocoinshop.de.

Imho this is the perfect add-on to a tshirt. Of course the shirt is a must and its something everybody has a use for. But it's nothing "special". Nor is a cap nor a usb stick nor a bag nor a mug special. But a geocoin is something you pretty likley haven't gotten before.

If you are not into geocaching then a geocoin is basically a nice medal with a maemo/summit logo and a unique id. If you are into geocaching you already know what a geocoin is good for.

Also if anybody is willing to make a nice design for the summit i'd be thankful. Currently i am thinking about one with the maemo.org logo (in while/orange) on a medal made of dark grey metal. But that's of course missing the amsterdam/summit relationship. So a better design is sure needed.

timsamoff 2009-08-06 11:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Master of Gizmo (Post 309292)
Please let me promote my idea for a geocoin. You can see plenty of examples at Geocoinshop.de.

Imho this is the perfect add-on to a tshirt. Of course the shirt is a must and its something everybody has a use for. But it's nothing "special". Nor is a cap nor a usb stick nor a bag nor a mug special. But a geocoin is something you pretty likley haven't gotten before.

If you are not into geocaching then a geocoin is basically a nice medal with a maemo/summit logo and a unique id. If you are into geocaching you already know what a geocoin is good for.

Also if anybody is willing to make a nice design for the summit i'd be thankful. Currently i am thinking about one with the maemo.org logo (in while/orange) on a medal made of dark grey metal. But that's of course missing the amsterdam/summit relationship. So a better design is sure needed.

That's a cool, gimmicky item to give out at events, but I'm not sure it's worth the cost. We have a limited budget, so we need to focus on coming up with something everyone would want -- and use.

Of course, if there's an overwhelming response for something like this, it can always be reconsidered!

Thanks,
Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-06 16:17

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Here are a few color comps. Keep in mind that the fewer printed colors the better (let's try to keep it to one or two -- making gradients out of the question). These samples aren't meant to be design ideas, but just a way to see a few possible color combinations.

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-06 16:42

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Version 1 of a Maemo Summit logo based on the Amsterdam flag.

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-06 17:13

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Here are two more variations on the flag: one-color on light gray or orange.

Tim

sjgadsby 2009-08-06 17:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 309378)
Here are two more variations on the flag: one-color on light gray or orange.

Okay, I'd like that one poster sized on nice stock. Once I have my wife frame it, it's going on my wall.

EDIT: They're replicating! Now I need to choose a color. Hmm.

timsamoff 2009-08-06 17:25

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And, there's more! A direct rip off of the flag (red shirt, one- and -two-color).

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-06 17:31

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Last one for now... We are all people, aren't we? ;)

Tim

sachin007 2009-08-06 17:46

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What about "Fixed in Fremantle" t-shirts?

timsamoff 2009-08-06 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 309388)
What about "Fixed in Fremantle" t-shirts?

Last year, Quim had everyone (ok, just a few of us did it, but...) create our own shirts with our favorite logo contest submissions. It was pretty fun. Maybe we should do that again!

Update: Done! Check out the party on Friday.

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-06 17:49

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Here's a hat application of one of the logos.

Tim

VDVsx 2009-08-06 18:17

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Tim,

Why not put these logos in a banner/web badge shape here ;)

Ps. Liked the flag rip-off logo :)

timsamoff 2009-08-06 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 309398)
TWhy not put these logos in a banner/web badge shape here ;)

My only concern with that is that nothing has been "officially" chosen and I don't know if I'd like to see all number of banners flying around the internets. On the flip side, any promotion is good promotion, so... Added. :)

Tim

timsamoff 2009-08-06 19:47

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A couple of the previous ideas using black instead of dark gray. (If you couldn't tell, this is my favorite so far.)

Tim

Benson 2009-08-07 00:11

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I'd go for black or dark gray shirt (I prefer black, personally). Definitely not white t-shirts; you can't ever wear them lest they get stained.

So far, the "Summit 2ae9" logo is my favorite (and we thought nobody was sure how to pronounce Maemo!), and I think it would endure a conversion to 2-color on black well enough. Something like Jaffa's front/back version would be nice.

As for hats, a baseball cap would be okay, but I don't wear hats all that much. Again, I'd prefer dark gray or black, and I still like the 2ae9 logo.


I have one additional suggestion. How about bandannas? As a cyclist, there's nothing better than a wet bandanna to keep your head cool on a hot day, and they're pretty versatile, even for non-cyclists ;). I know I'd wind up using a bandanna rather more often than a T-shirt or ball cap, and much more often than a knit cap, but I'm likely an exception that way...

timsamoff 2009-08-07 00:47

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So far, white shirts haven't been offered as a choice, but... They are cheaper.

I'll let the poll take care of the other comments. ;)

Tim

Texrat 2009-08-07 01:00

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Tim, I *love* your work.

But my experience in corporate logo development, especially for a diversity council, suggests being careful when incorporating symbols like national flags. Unless you've had experience contrary to mine... maybe I just worked for a stuffy company. ;)

Texrat 2009-08-07 01:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 309388)
What about "Fixed in Fremantle" t-shirts?

Or "I know someone inside Nokia"


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