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fake 2010-02-06 21:34

Laser-Cut Stand for N900
 
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So, today I'm happy to announce that I'm finally able to offer something people asked for right away -- high quality black acrylic stands.

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/Black_Acrylic_Stand.jpg

These gorgeous, glossy, piano-black stands are even better than the old clear stands. They are now non-slip! They stay put on a desk very well.

See a demo video here.

The best thing, though, is that I now have two package deals with stylii. Right now, you can buy a black acrylic stand plus a stylus for $20 -- or you can buy a black acrylic stand, a black wooden stand, and a stylus for $25. That's a steal.

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/Black_..._And_Phone.jpg

Remember, these prices include worldwide shipping. I will be gone for the next two weeks, so my friend Matti will be handling shipping, but customer service will still come from me.

There are only 25 total packages with stylii. 10 of the mixed sets, and 15 of the single acrylic + stylus packs. When they run out, I will not be able to restock them until I return to Fargo in the beginning of April.

These new wood stands fit extra-tight. Please watch the video to be sure you're ready to assemble them when you get them.

Thanks for everything, everyone.
-Daniel


Original post begins below:

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Hey everyone, as you know the N900 has a built-in stand. However, unlike the N810, the stand is not one of its strong points. I decided to fix this and created a desk stand for the N900.

Here's a much better video showing the new stand... and also showing me destroying a stand or two.

This video shows the old version of the stand

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand6.jpg

I tried to improve on the original stand by:
  1. 1. Stabilizing the N900 on both sides. The original stand falls over if your headphones tug the wrong way or you touch the side of the screen.
  2. 2. Putting the N900 at a better angle. The original holds the N900 up so it reflects overhead lights.
  3. 3. Keeping the stylus always accessible. When the kickstand is out, the stylus is at the bottom of the unit.

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand7.jpg

The other thing is that I wanted this new stand to be affordable. The idea is that you could afford to buy a couple of them, one for the desk at work, one for the nightstand next to your bed, etc. Stands are useless if they're not in front of you when you need them, so it's best to leave them where you need them.

So here it is, a laser-cut baltic birch plywood stand. It's made of strong, light 3mm birch ply, so it comes to you in a flat envelope and assembly is super-simple. Just take the two side pieces and slot them into the brace bar.

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand8.jpg

The wooden models will be priced as follows:

One for $10. That includes shipping.
Two for $15. (The "home&office" set)That includes shipping.
Three for $20. That includes shipping.

Based on suggestions here, I have decided to ALSO produce a limited run of acrylic stands. They do not get an anti-slip coating on the bottom. However, THEY LOOK AWESOME.

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand_acrylic3.jpg
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand_acrylic1.jpg
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand_acrylic2.jpg

Clear acrylic stands will cost:

One for $17, shipped
Two for $30, (The "home&office" set) shipped.

You can also buy a "home & office pack" with one wood and one acrylic. This pack costs $22, shipped.

Some production shots:

All acrylic stands, waiting to be packed:

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stands1.jpg

Many parts of the wooden stands (they look SO GOOD in black):

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stands2.jpg

The super-secret no-slip finish drying on a bunch of pieces:

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stands3.jpg

Here are the acrylic braces -- the yield on these is much lower, I have to throw away a lot of bad ones. The filter I built didn't do much for the overpowering smell, so I'll have to figure out something else. Even so, they look great:

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1265614300

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1265614323

These are the original pictures of the first stand prototype, before I improved it based on community comments. Now, it has an extended back, to make it more stable with the keyboard out, it is painted black, and there will be some kind of anti-slip substance on the bottom (no-slip on wooden models only).

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand1.jpg
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand2.jpg
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand3.jpg

After painting it black according to community request:
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand4.jpg
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand5.jpg

bonerp 2010-02-06 21:43

Re: Laser-Cut Stand for N900
 
can you ship to the uk? I'll take 2 of so.

Naranek 2010-02-06 21:45

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Looks great and the price is really nice. Sadly I have a N800 instead of N900, but otherwise I'd buy at least two :)

fake 2010-02-06 21:46

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Yes, I will ship to anywhere, and although I have to check shipping prices, I'm planning on leaving the shipping included in the price. Shipping in the continental USA I'll make more money, but it really annoys me how people outside the US get so gouged on shipping, so I'll try to keep it included.

Payment can be by mail or PayPal. I will set up a PayPal button/thing on Monday, and I will also be shipping these on Monday.

fake 2010-02-06 21:47

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Naranek, if I had an N800 to measure to make a stand, I would definitely make you a stand. I only have an N810 and N900.

slender 2010-02-06 21:47

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Looks nice.
Just came to my mind that Is it possible to do foldable version. Offcourse it could be bit shakey but you could take it with you easily.

And how it works when you slide keyboard out and push upper part of screen with your stylus?

NokiaRocks 2010-02-06 21:49

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Would you ship to Germany too ?

choubbi 2010-02-06 21:51

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cool design !

what about cutting a 1mm deeper groove, which would be thinner, for when the keyboard is out ? That would prevent the N900 rattling like in the video.
When the N900 is closed, the groove you already cut out holds the phone. When it is open, the keyboard part automatically slides into the deeper groove and is held tight.
I guess you can even do that on the already made stands.

Anyway the only times I would have liked to have a stand were when watching a movie, so I just wouldn't have the keyboard out.

dmj726 2010-02-06 21:51

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That looks really nice! I'd be interested in a few of these.

fake 2010-02-06 21:52

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I will look into doing a foldable version -- a stand you could keep in your wallet would be really cool.

Quote:

And how it works when you slide keyboard out and push upper part of screen with your stylus?
Have a look at the video -- when the keyboard is out, it is not as stable as when it is down (obviously) but it's still usable.

It's definitely best with the screen down. I thought a lot about how to make a stand for both modes, but I didn't come up with anything better than the present version.

bonerp 2010-02-06 21:54

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if you have several buyers in the UK i'd be happy to receive them and send them on internally in the uk. Would keep costs down.
pm me when you have any further orders and we can arrange if others in the UK are happy with this.
Paul

Larza 2010-02-06 21:54

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Nice. I would be interested on buying two or maybe three. Looks like the n900 sits quite well on the stand, but how is it going to stay put on a slick surface when i poke my n900? Should the bottom of the stand be treated with some nonslippery stuff? =)

dmj726 2010-02-06 21:56

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You could make the piece on the side without the camera go up higher and hook around the top edge of the n900, leaving room for the screen to slide up.

fake 2010-02-06 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaRocks (Post 513605)
Would you ship to Germany too ?

I will ship anywhere -- but if the cost of shipping is too high (more than $5 for a flat envelope) I will have to ask for a little extra.

I don't think it will be a problem. I designed these stands to lay flat in a flat envelope and shipping should be very cheap.

fake 2010-02-06 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 513613)
if you have several buyers in the UK i'd be happy to receive them and send them one internally in the uk. Would keep costs down.
pm me when you have any further orders and we can arrange if others in the UK are happy with this.
Paul

Cool idea, I would be happy to do this.

biggzy 2010-02-06 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bonerp (Post 513613)
if you have several buyers in the UK i'd be happy to receive them and send them one internally in the uk. Would keep costs down.
pm me when you have any further orders and we can arrange if others in the UK are happy with this.
Paul

Thats a great idea, id buy 2, would you sell via ebay.co.uk or? i reckon these stands would fly on ebay.

fake 2010-02-06 22:00

Re: Laser-Cut Stand for N900
 
I could put some on eBay, but I would have to raise the price a bit.

I was thinking that I would just accept payments via PayPal to cut out the middleman and keep things cheap... would that work for everyone?

If you'd rather have the security that eBay offers, that's OK with me, too, I'd just need to raise the price a little to cover fees.

les_garten 2010-02-06 22:03

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I'll take two of these gadgets. I was just trying to figure out how to do this in a wood block and you pop up.

Geeks work in mysterious ways...

biggzy 2010-02-06 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fake (Post 513623)
I could put some on eBay, but I would have to raise the price a bit.

I was thinking that I would just accept payments via PayPal to cut out the middleman and keep things cheap... would that work for everyone?

If you'd rather have the security that eBay offers, that's OK with me, too, I'd just need to raise the price a little to cover fees.

even if most of us buy direct i would still put them on ebay, this stand could take off well, so its worth a try mate, would love that stand in matt black plastic, is it posible?

fake 2010-02-06 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biggzy (Post 513628)
even if most of us buy direct i would still put them on ebay, this stand could take off well, so its worth a try mate, would love that stand in matt black plastic, is it posible?

I'll see what eBay fees would be like and give it a try. Thanks for the idea.

Matte is a little tough. Black acrylic is possible -- I'll have to see how much it costs, it might make the price go up a bit. As you can see in the video, the two pieces force-fit together, that's not possible with acrylic, as it will break. I'd have to rethink it a bit... maybe for version two.

It's also possible to just spraypaint or marker this one black. :)

gfdsa 2010-02-06 22:12

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count me in fake, I'm in italy and will add a couple of bucks for shipping :)
will add another five if you paint or plastic it for not to look "strange" on a business desk!

Saturn 2010-02-06 22:12

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Nice; I'm considering of getting two.

Do you plan in providing them also in black? I would prefer that if possible.

biggzy 2010-02-06 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fake (Post 513631)
I'll see what eBay fees would be like and give it a try. Thanks for the idea.

Matte is a little tough. Black acrylic is possible -- I'll have to see how much it costs, it might make the price go up a bit. As you can see in the video, the two pieces force-fit together, that's not possible with acrylic, as it will break. I'd have to rethink it a bit... maybe for version two.

It's also possible to just spraypaint or marker this one black. :)

Yes i was just gonna say we could spray them any color, great idea, after watching the vid .. WOW i want one. very very well done, looks neat and tidy.

slender 2010-02-06 22:14

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btw. Making kickstand and case in to same package would be also quite nice.

fake 2010-02-06 22:15

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Let me see if I can find some way to make them very cheaply in black. I could paint these ones black; that might work well enough. I'll do a test this afternoon.

Otherwise, I have to use black plastic, which is also doable, but it will raise the price a bit. I'm really trying to keep these as cheap as possible, but if the demand were there, I could definitely do plastic.

fake 2010-02-06 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 513642)
btw. Making kickstand and case in to same package would be also quite nice.

Sorry, I don't quite understand, can you explain a bit more? Do you mean making an N900 case with an integrated kickstand?

wizbowes 2010-02-06 22:39

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two more for the UK please. Happy to consoldate the order as previously mentioned.

fake 2010-02-06 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gfdsa (Post 513639)
count me in fake, I'm in italy and will add a couple of bucks for shipping :)
will add another five if you paint or plastic it for not to look "strange" on a business desk!

I tried spraypainting one black, it looks awesome. I am going to spend some time tonight trying to figure out if I can paint them really fast (and so, keep things cheap).

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand4.jpg
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand5.jpg

I'm also going to try to paint a non-slip coating on the bottom for added stability. Then these things would really rock. :)

les_garten 2010-02-06 22:56

Re: Laser-Cut Stand for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fake (Post 513678)
I tried spraypainting one black, it looks awesome. I am going to spend some time tonight trying to figure out if I can paint them really fast (and so, keep things cheap).

http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand4.jpg
http://danreetz.com/for_maemo/stand5.jpg

I'm also going to try to paint a non-slip coating on the bottom for added stability. Then these things would really rock. :)

How about a Flame job?

Candy Ghost Flames?

:D

cardiff-blues 2010-02-06 22:57

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another 2 in black for the UK please!

jaem 2010-02-06 23:23

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This looks nice, simple, and cheap. I'll probably be in for at least one (Canada), but given my finances (yay university) I'll probably wait and see what the feedback from the first batch is, and whether you are able to make any of the suggested improvements. I'm quite impressed, though, and envious of the laser cutter. 5 Internets to you, sir! :)

muto 2010-02-06 23:34

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I will take two!

yorkey 2010-02-06 23:40

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Make my order two as well please (UK). Both black if you can!

Dont know what Nokia were thinking when they designed there stand!

Non slip coating on the bottom would be nice. But I think the right kind of tape of feet like they have on keyboards would work.

fake 2010-02-06 23:42

Re: Laser-Cut Stand for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaem (Post 513744)
This looks nice, simple, and cheap. I'll probably be in for at least one (Canada), but given my finances (yay university) I'll probably wait and see what the feedback from the first batch is, and whether you are able to make any of the suggested improvements. I'm quite impressed, though, and envious of the laser cutter. 5 Internets to you, sir! :)

I totally understand -- I'm a graduate student, too. However, I am going to go ahead and implement these three improvements for the first batch, at the same price previously mentioned:

1. All stands will be painted black unless otherwise requested.
2. All stands will get a non-slip rubber coat on the base.
3. I am going to re-cut the two bottom pieces to make it even more stable when the screen is up/keyboard is out.

While that means essentially trashing most of the first batch, it will be a real improvement and I think people will be a lot happier. :)

Unfortunately, it means that it will be a few extra days before I ship. At the latest, I hope to ship Friday the 12th, but I hope I can ship much sooner than that.

optimistprime 2010-02-06 23:48

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I'm all in! definately would like 2! can you send a pm when they're ready to go with paypal?

fake 2010-02-06 23:51

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I will collect the names of everyone who expressed interest and PM the moment they are ready. I will also add a list of all reserved stands to the first post, and check them off as they are shipped.

I'm going to remake them tonight, and paint and coat them with non-slip rubber, and then I'm just waiting for my envelopes to arrive so I can ship them.

Unfortunately, the estimated arrival date for my shipping envelopes is Friday the 12th. :( I ordered from a guy in a nearby city, and he actually ordered them from south California, so the shipping is taking FOREVER. Totally bummed about that.

I'm going to try to find some envelopes of the right size locally tomorrow, so I can get them off sooner, but no guarantees.

Palleman 2010-02-07 00:07

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Hey, I want a bunch! Recutting to make keyboard snap did it for me. Typing with N900 laying down is a mess.

Make me five of those. Ship to Sweden. If envelopes takes five days, then buy one from the shipper and put it on my bill.

mscarrot 2010-02-07 00:23

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Would like to be the first woman to show interest in your stand,
looks fabulous and maybe I want a black and a pink one (LOL)....

would like to hear from you and will continue to keep an eye on this and see how it develops.

Keep up the good work !!!

fake 2010-02-07 00:29

Re: Laser-Cut Stand for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Palleman (Post 513789)
Hey, I want a bunch! Recutting to make keyboard snap did it for me. Typing with N900 laying down is a mess.

Make me five of those. Ship to Sweden. If envelopes takes five days, then buy one from the shipper and put it on my bill.

Cool!

When I complete the new version, I will post revised pictures and a video showing typing and stuff so you can be sure you are satisfied.

I am testing a silicone rubber non-slip coating now. The only downside is that it takes almost 12 hours to set up. But I think it's going to be perfect for glass desks, or desks with any smooth surface.

If it doesn't work, I will find something else tomorrow and make it work! I can hardly wait to ship these babies out. :)

fake 2010-02-07 00:31

Re: Laser-Cut Stand for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscarrot (Post 513803)
Would like to be the first woman to show interest in your stand,
looks fabulous and maybe I want a black and a pink one (LOL)....

would like to hear from you and will continue to keep an eye on this and see how it develops.

Keep up the good work !!!

Black is the new pink! Is that pink enough? ;)

(gonna look around for some pink paint, ha!).

As I said, I will post progress pictures and images, so everyone can see exactly what they're buying... I really want everyone to be really happy with the end product. And I think they will be. :)


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