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VDVsx 2011-10-03 19:03

N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Hello,

now that the N9 is shipping, in the good open source spirit, we are looking for constructive feedback on the email and mail for exchange clients, please post here any problems, annoying behavior or suggestions that you might have. Please note that might be difficult to help if you are using a older than sales release image, since there's a lot of major bugs in those images.
Instructions how to get logs from the device will be posted later.

Disclaimer: I work for Nokia, like others that might post in this thread, however we're not providing any official support in this thread, we just want to help and clarify the users of the N9, like was done for the N900, regardless to say that any opinion here is my own and we're helping in our free time.

Saturn 2011-10-03 19:44

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Thanks for the extra effort.

(most probably you already know those from the meego thread, but I add them here for completeness)

1. No notifications for new mails in folders other than the inbox. E.g. in the case there are filters set in the server.

2. Issue with the contacts that have more than one number in one field type. e.g. if one contact has 2 numbers set as mobile will not get the second number synchronised back to the server.

PS: checked with N950 beta2

aenbacka 2011-10-03 20:04

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
I am using N950 with beta2, and have multiple IMAP accounts configured. I am using IMAP folders extensively, and have noticed problems with synchronisation. I.e., when moving mails from e.g., the inbox to some folder using thunderbird / outlook on my laptop, the e-mail client on the N950 does not notice this, and I need to move the e-mails manually. Also, mails still are present on the server even though deleted on the N950.

Is this problem only present on the beta2 firmware, and not on later firmware versions?

ukki 2011-10-03 20:54

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
I can't get MfE to work at all. Log just says "Connection closed". I get the same message from the browser when I try to access OWA, so I'm guessing it has something to do with the SSL-certificate? All other browsers accept the certificate though so it's valid and both MfE and OWA work with n900 just fine.

uvatbc 2011-10-04 03:15

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
I have an n950 with the beta2 firmware.

1. It is possible to remove a favorite folder, but no way to add another folder to the existing favorites.
2. For gmail imap, opening an email does not set it as read. This may be a gmail specific problem
3. There is no way I could figure out how to select and copy to clipboard any text from an email

Kudos for:
1. MfE supports Zimbra and Exchange in addition to supporting device provisioning. Thank you thank you thank you! You have no idea how frustrating it was that I could not use the n900 for my office email.
2. Favorite folders and combined email list: F***ing amazing. Thank you!!
3. Swipe for next and previous email, zoom in and out on email: Cool, me likey!

fettouhi 2011-10-04 07:56

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
I just got my N9 (released last friday in Denmark) and I simply cannot get MfE to work. I'm running a Microsoft Exchange 2010 server and my N9 won't connect to it but my old N900 connects fine. I put in the exact same credentials and I just get the error 'can't connect to exchange server'. I tried connecting to it over 3g and wifi and it doesn't work...

jeremy_laine 2011-10-04 11:04

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
I am using beta 2 on an N950 and must say that on the whole, I find the email client fast and fun to use. It's a great improvement over the N9's email client, even the Symbian Anna version.

I do have one rather puzzling issue when using my IMAP server (running Dovecot) : the email client does not seem to recognize my "INBOX" folder, and so it does not display any emails by default. The best I can do is to add "INBOX" to my favorite folders, but this is annoying since it is not what is displayed by default.

EDIT: The problem seems to be that IMAP namespaces are not correctly interpeted (in my setup I have my private email folders + a shared folder). I assume the mail client is built on top of the Qt Messaging Framework? If so, maybe I can reproduce the problem on a desktop.

Saturn 2011-10-04 20:00

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Adding also to my previous post:

3. the notification LED not blinking for new mail, which makes me check every few minutes if I have mail and I missed the sound.

4. selecting a folder could be implemented differently; i.e allow navigation and the use of the search function - like the search in the inbox

5. in the options for sorting messages in a folder, would like also to have sorting by subject.

On the other hand, congratulation to the guys for building such a nice interface. Reading mails is really clean and fast. Thanks already.

sony123 2011-10-04 20:12

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Would love to have threaded email..

BigBadGuber! 2011-10-04 21:01

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fettouhi (Post 1102280)
I just got my N9 (released last friday in Denmark) and I simply cannot get MfE to work. I'm running a Microsoft Exchange 2010 server and my N9 won't connect to it but my old N900 connects fine. I put in the exact same credentials and I just get the error 'can't connect to exchange server'. I tried connecting to it over 3g and wifi and it doesn't work...

I feel for you. That is why I am hesitant to get N9

BigBadGuber! 2011-10-04 21:04

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukki (Post 1102100)
I can't get MfE to work at all. Log just says "Connection closed". I get the same message from the browser when I try to access OWA, so I'm guessing it has something to do with the SSL-certificate? All other browsers accept the certificate though so it's valid and both MfE and OWA work with n900 just fine.

You would think that NOKIA would not trip on such essentials as MfE......


Can you have multiple exchange accounts

luonto 2011-10-04 22:22

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
N950 (V 1.2011.34-2 PR_RM680)


Gmail worked badly to say the least until I had to manually set the incoming and outgoing server settings, encryption and ports. That should be corrected.

MfE works every now and then, I guess that has issues with some settings too...


Otherwise the client is real nice and fresh. Shame that the above faults are pretty critical from the normal users' point of view.

BigBadGuber! 2011-10-04 22:41

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
I guess iPhone still kicks ***

mikecomputing 2011-10-05 01:22

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
I dont get it. But wasn't this thread about n9 MfE client? now the thread is flooded by one troll(bigbad..) and some people with the loaned devdevice!

I dont have my N9 yet so dont know about the cient but threaded mail would be awesome feature...

BigBadGuber! 2011-10-05 02:04

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1102960)
I dont get it. But wasn't this thread about n9 MfE client? now the thread is flooded by one troll(bigbad..) and some people with the loaned devdevice!

I dont have my N9 yet so dont know about the cient but threaded mail would be awesome feature...

People are having trouble with N9

abill_uk 2011-10-05 02:21

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1102978)
People are having trouble with N9

Yes YOU because you can not get one :rolleyes:.

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:12

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1102066)
Thanks for the extra effort.

(most probably you already know those from the meego thread, but I add them here for completeness)

1. No notifications for new mails in folders other than the inbox. E.g. in the case there are filters set in the server.

I cannot remember anymore how is it working in w34 SW, but if you mark a folder as favorite you should get notifications of new messages for IMAP accounts, for MfE that feature was implemented later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1102066)
2. Issue with the contacts that have more than one number in one field type. e.g. if one contact has 2 numbers set as mobile will not get the second number synchronised back to the server.

PS: checked with N950 beta2

This is MfE protocol restriction. The Contacts structure defined in the protocol specification has only one mobile phone field. The same with address and other
fields. Protocol supports up to 3 email addresses fields, so if you will define
the fourth email, it will be lost too.

Reference:

[MS-ASCNTC] - v1.0
ActiveSync Contact Class Protocol Specification
Copyright © 2008 Microsoft Corporation.
Release: Wednesday, December 3, 2008

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:17

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aenbacka (Post 1102081)
I am using N950 with beta2, and have multiple IMAP accounts configured. I am using IMAP folders extensively, and have noticed problems with synchronisation. I.e., when moving mails from e.g., the inbox to some folder using thunderbird / outlook on my laptop, the e-mail client on the N950 does not notice this, and I need to move the e-mails manually. Also, mails still are present on the server even though deleted on the N950.

Is this problem only present on the beta2 firmware, and not on later firmware versions?

Are you using always-up-to-date mode(IMAP IDLE), sync internal(e.g 20 mins) or manual sync ?

The messages will be moved/deleted in the next sync, if in always-up-to-date mode they will be moved right away but will only appear as new if the new folder is favorite, if not they will appear next time you visit the folder or do a full sync.

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:18

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukki (Post 1102100)
I can't get MfE to work at all. Log just says "Connection closed". I get the same message from the browser when I try to access OWA, so I'm guessing it has something to do with the SSL-certificate? All other browsers accept the certificate though so it's valid and both MfE and OWA work with n900 just fine.

Where are you getting this message ? During setup or inside email app ?

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:23

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 1102192)
I have an n950 with the beta2 firmware.

1. It is possible to remove a favorite folder, but no way to add another folder to the existing favorites.

Humm ? Click in the folders icon and check the star next to the folder name, this interface is not very intuitive IMO, but was already improved in later releases.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 1102192)
2. For gmail imap, opening an email does not set it as read. This may be a gmail specific problem

Looks like some weird bug, it should work without any issues in sales image.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 1102192)
3. There is no way I could figure out how to select and copy to clipboard any text from an email

Copy&paste is only available in the composer in 1.0, stay tuned of improvements :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 1102192)
Kudos for:
1. MfE supports Zimbra and Exchange in addition to supporting device provisioning. Thank you thank you thank you! You have no idea how frustrating it was that I could not use the n900 for my office email.
2. Favorite folders and combined email list: F***ing amazing. Thank you!!
3. Swipe for next and previous email, zoom in and out on email: Cool, me likey!

Thanks for the feedback.

slai 2011-10-05 06:31

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Personally I set up the email for hotmail and gmail easily, nothing needed except email adress and password, and the client works very well with handling multiple recipients and multiple attatchments.

copy/paste isnt quite there yet tho. I can mark single words, but not select text from the emails themselves.

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:41

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fettouhi (Post 1102280)
I just got my N9 (released last friday in Denmark) and I simply cannot get MfE to work. I'm running a Microsoft Exchange 2010 server and my N9 won't connect to it but my old N900 connects fine. I put in the exact same credentials and I just get the error 'can't connect to exchange server'. I tried connecting to it over 3g and wifi and it doesn't work...

Humm strange, are you sure the settings are correct in the manual setup screen ? if the autodiscovery fails(first setup screen) your server address, username and domain probably are not correct in the second screen, please double check that.

Another issue can be that your server requires some provisioning settings that the N9 can't satisfy(N900 does not support provisioning so this is ignored), you can try to check the box "Non provisioning device" in the second setup screen.

If this doesn't help we'll need to collect the logs.

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:42

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy_laine (Post 1102366)
I am using beta 2 on an N950 and must say that on the whole, I find the email client fast and fun to use. It's a great improvement over the N9's email client, even the Symbian Anna version.

I do have one rather puzzling issue when using my IMAP server (running Dovecot) : the email client does not seem to recognize my "INBOX" folder, and so it does not display any emails by default. The best I can do is to add "INBOX" to my favorite folders, but this is annoying since it is not what is displayed by default.

What is the name of the inbox folder ? "INBOX" in caps ?

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:48

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1102739)
Adding also to my previous post:

3. the notification LED not blinking for new mail, which makes me check every few minutes if I have mail and I missed the sound.

Noted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1102739)
4. selecting a folder could be implemented differently; i.e allow navigation and the use of the search function - like the search in the inbox

Can you elaborate a bit on the navigation part ?
Search is available inside folders the same way it is in inbox, can you clarify ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1102739)
5. in the options for sorting messages in a folder, would like also to have sorting by subject.

Noted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1102739)
On the other hand, congratulation to the guys for building such a nice interface. Reading mails is really clean and fast. Thanks already.

Thanks for the feedback.

VDVsx 2011-10-05 06:49

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sony123 (Post 1102747)
Would love to have threaded email..

Feedback noted :)

aenbacka 2011-10-05 07:04

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 1103047)
Are you using always-up-to-date mode(IMAP IDLE), sync internal(e.g 20 mins) or manual sync ?

The messages will be moved/deleted in the next sync, if in always-up-to-date mode they will be moved right away but will only appear as new if the new folder is favorite, if not they will appear next time you visit the folder or do a full sync.

I have always-up-to-date mode enabled (imap idle). For instance, I just deleted a message from the inbox on the laptop (using outlook), but even when re-syncing the mail account on the N950, the message I deleted is still present in the inbox.

BigBadGuber! 2011-10-05 07:08

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 1103059)
Humm strange, are you sure the settings are correct in the manual setup screen ? if the autodiscovery fails(first setup screen) your server address, username and domain probably are not correct in the second screen, please double check that.

Another issue can be that your server requires some provisioning settings that the N9 can't satisfy(N900 does not support provisioning so this is ignored), you can try to check the box "Non provisioning device" in the second setup screen.

If this doesn't help we'll need to collect the logs.

Are you saying that this latest and greatest device still does have provisioning?

uvatbc 2011-10-05 07:16

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1103086)
Are you saying that this latest and greatest device still does have provisioning?

Ignoring your obvious typo...

I think I mentioned earlier that it does have provisioning.
I wouldn't have been able to connect to my company account without it.

jahaugum 2011-10-05 07:24

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 1103060)
What is the name of the inbox folder ? "INBOX" in caps ?

I've got this same issue for IMAP UW. And my inbox is called "INBOX".

A different annoyancy for this same imap server is that I get all home directory files in the folder view. I think this might be a bad configuration on the server, but I've seen other email clients capable in finding the mail directory and show only this.

But else from this cranky imap server, my other gmails and exchange accounts work very good. Very happy with email push too!

ukki 2011-10-05 07:27

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 1103048)
Where are you getting this message ? During setup or inside email app ?

During setup, after I insert server address etc. Error message says something about not being able to connect, check your settings. but log says just "Connection closed". I'm sure the settings are correct and I tried checking/unchecking the other available options.

fettouhi 2011-10-05 07:32

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 1103059)
Humm strange, are you sure the settings are correct in the manual setup screen ? if the autodiscovery fails(first setup screen) your server address, username and domain probably are not correct in the second screen, please double check that.

Another issue can be that your server requires some provisioning settings that the N9 can't satisfy(N900 does not support provisioning so this is ignored), you can try to check the box "Non provisioning device" in the second setup screen.

If this doesn't help we'll need to collect the logs.

All the settings are as I typed in on the n900 both on the first and second screen. I checked the box and I still get the same error.

sony123 2011-10-05 07:54

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
A few more suggestions that I am sure you are aware of:
1) Text selection in mail, e.g. to copy a link, a phone, an address etc.
2) If 1) cannot be done, at least the ability to edit quote in reply.
3) Smart parsing of phone number/address in the mail content so user can directly dial a number/open an address in Map.

I am using Beta2 fw on N950 by the way (N9 is not available where I live).

vitaly_repin 2011-10-05 09:27

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1102784)
Can you have multiple exchange accounts

Yes, you can! :-) And provisioning started to be supported by N9.

vitaly_repin 2011-10-05 09:29

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1103086)
Are you saying that this latest and greatest device still does have provisioning?


It does have now. Your complaints were heard! From MfE side. Everything else depends on your server settings.

vitaly_repin 2011-10-05 09:36

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1102066)
1. No notifications for new mails in folders other than the inbox. E.g. in the case there are filters set in the server.

Strange. Are these folders favourite? N9 has the concept of favourite folders. It means that only favourite folders are synced automatically or manually. Non favourite folders are syunced when you enter them.

Obviously, if the folder is not synced, no notifications appear. Is it your case?

Quote:

2. Issue with the contacts that have more than one number in one field type. e.g. if one contact has 2 numbers set as mobile will not get the second number synchronised back to the server.
There are limitations of Exchange Protocol. It supports less features than our contacts application. You need to change the type of the phone to make it synced with Exchange server.

BigBadGuber! 2011-10-05 12:28

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Great to see that you are alive Vitaly!!!

Sergey_Kashin 2011-10-05 16:08

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukki (Post 1102100)
I can't get MfE to work at all. Log just says "Connection closed". I get the same message from the browser when I try to access OWA, so I'm guessing it has something to do with the SSL-certificate? All other browsers accept the certificate though so it's valid and both MfE and OWA work with n900 just fine.

Hello,
I you sure that you didn't decline any pop-up dialog? When you tapped on a sign-in button autodiscover page should appear and then dialog that asks you about certificate must pop-up.

fettouhi 2011-10-05 16:50

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergey_Kashin (Post 1103425)
Hello,
I you sure that you didn't decline any pop-up dialog? When you tapped on a sign-in button autodiscover page should appear and then dialog that asks you about certificate must pop-up.

Neither in my case do I get a pop-up about a certificate.

ukki 2011-10-05 17:31

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergey_Kashin (Post 1103425)
Hello,
I you sure that you didn't decline any pop-up dialog? When you tapped on a sign-in button autodiscover page should appear and then dialog that asks you about certificate must pop-up.

Yes I'm sure that I didn't. After autodiscovery it asks for the server address and domain and after I fill them, it fails to connect with the mentioned error message. I'm also sure the settings are correct.

fettouhi 2011-10-05 17:49

Re: N9/N950 Email/Mail for Exchange - Get help & give feedback here
 
In my case the auto discovery is not turned on at all on the exghange server. I just found that out.


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