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bunanson 2009-12-31 06:00

Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
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N900 OVI maps step by step

1) dl maploader here,http://maps.nokia.com/ovi-services-a...p-loader-steps, default is window and English,
2) Install it on your winPC; apparantly winXP works, vista has issues
3) Reboot PC, WONT WORK WITHOUT winPC REBOOT
4) USB connect PC and N900, choose mass storage mode. Open maploader ONLY after usb symbol appeared on the N900, otherwise keep repeating step 4)
5) click open PCsuite then maploader within PCsuite on winXP ("waiting for phone..." is not good, you may have to keep exit and re enter till see "update phone info, it is a hit or miss situation, sometime it works on 1st shot, sometime I have to try it for 6 times)
6) ...."Delete previous map data?..." Yes
7) "Update phone info..." AND automatically dl and install UK and Europe... like it or not 6) and 7) took about 10 minute, a penalty for nonEuropeans :)
8) Now you presented with a catalogue of downloadable maps, 5 of them for a total of 5.5 G, as space is precious, I would 1st delete UK and Europe to reclaim space, unless you really want them, "Delete ALL map data?" Yes
9) click the '+' next to your map of desire, US is 1.9 G and will take a total of 2 hrs for dl and install, on a good night :-)

Maps: 0.1.23.112 (2008)
Maploader 3.0.28.0

You can also do the maps manually, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36939, thread #20; not quite sure how to do the voice though, as if it matters?
Edit: more info, http://handphone-solution.blogspot.c...0-without.html

OVI maps FAQ, http://www.ovi.com/services/support/...port_maps_faqs

and please report experience here, so we can learn how to use Ovi better, Thanks, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38405

Edit: Updated to PR1.1, Ovi map automatically updated to Ovi Maps 1.01; new look, more functions, increase 'useablity', recommend to upgrade

1) day view, map
2) satellate view
3) terraine view
4) night view
5) 3D

have fun,

bun

bandora 2009-12-31 06:55

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I need to download maps for the US..

I thoughts that the maploader checks for the type of the phone, I guess it doesn't or N900 is actually supported!

Now it's time to see if I can get this to work on Windows 7.. :)

bunanson 2009-12-31 07:05

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
On win7, there are reports using 'winXP compatible mode?' and dont forget REBOOT. Good luck.

On automatically dl and install UK and Europe, maybe that is for the completeness of a world map. Just a guess.

bun

bandora 2009-12-31 07:29

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Yes that's what I was thinking about doing... Thanks anyways :)

bunanson 2009-12-31 07:46

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
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We always said, no pic, no count. Here is the pic, note at top left corner, gps icon logged, internet net icon, not used, gps logged without internet assist, grey color, night mode enabled, red dot at center, gps locked, stop tracking, route used.

enjoy,

bun

Clayton 2009-12-31 08:02

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Follow these instructions for loading the maps on your n900 for use without an internet connection.

http://handphone-solution.blogspot.c...0-without.html

bunanson 2009-12-31 08:17

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton (Post 447640)
Follow these instructions for loading the maps on your n900 for use without an internet connection.

http://handphone-solution.blogspot.c...0-without.html

Any luck in trying to get the voice work on N900? It allows for the download....coming feature, maybe?

bun

kazuki 2010-01-16 14:09

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
how do you get it to search locations without internet connection? without internet connection, i couldn't even get it to find the street right next to my gps location.

Venomrush 2010-01-16 14:25

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton (Post 447640)
Follow these instructions for loading the maps on your n900 for use without an internet connection.

http://handphone-solution.blogspot.c...0-without.html

Those instructions are for Symbian and Ovi Maps 3 for Symbian

Ovi maps on N900 Maemo is slightly different so I wouldn't use the instructions there on the N900

bunanson 2010-01-16 16:06

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kazuki (Post 476192)
how do you get it to search locations without internet connection? without internet connection, i couldn't even get it to find the street right next to my gps location.

Without internet, you would have to set destination by doing it on the map, once you have a beginning point and a destination point, route will work, and you can then track yourself. Anyway, this is old info. After update, it tracks by default, no need for route.

I still think, and maintains, ovi map is quite useful. It is the unreliable gps locking that makes the whole gps not dependable, i.e., when you want it, it does not lock. However, with the update, the locking is getting slightly more reliable, you see I have used 3 adjectives, "getting slightly more" :)

bun

b666m 2010-01-18 09:08

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
i'm running PR1.1 and i have downloaded complete europe but my gps doesn't get locked... there's "search gps" minute after minute... and every 30 seconds the pop up comes up where i should choose my internet connection?! :(

bunanson 2010-01-18 13:25

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
If you have internet, Settings>Location>Network positioning check Enable and change to supl.google.com:7276

If you do not have internet, Settings>Network positioning uncheck Enable

Either way, try install eCoach and bring it up. I have NOT confirm that eCoach is helping, apparantly, eCoach keeps the gps search long enough to get lock, while Ovi map dies prematurely, that is what I read in the forum.

Another one, Dektop menu>Add Widget>add Location. I read in some post, Location may use some battery though, but it sure helps to get lock faster.

Post back on your experience

On the road experience here, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38405

bun

rm42 2010-01-18 13:45

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 476393)
Without internet, you would have to set destination by doing it on the map, once you have a beginning point and a destination point, route will work, and you can then track yourself.

Am I doing something wrong or is it not possible to enter a destination number? So far I have had to settle for entering the Street name since the widget just wouldn't allow me to enter numbers.

bunanson 2010-01-18 13:50

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
With internet or no internet? I just tried, with internet, enter a street number, street name, city, and bamp, it found it, add to route, bamp, route is there. PR1.1 Ovi.

bun

leetut 2010-01-18 14:06

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
i cant use map loader at all on n900 at all, works fine on n97 tho, all warnings are below:

(you have connected at least one phone in mass storage mode. reconnect your phone and select pcsuite)

(waiting for phone)

(you have connected at least one phone without a valid maps drive.either you are using an old maps version-then you must update your maps app or reconnect your phone in MASS STORAGE mode- or you have never started maps - then you have to bla bla bla)

(you have connected at least one phone without a valid maps drive.either you are using an old maps version-then you must update your maps app or reconnect your phone in PCSUITE mode- or you have never started maps - then you have to bla bla bla)

(waiting for phone)

does anyone know a fix for this?

bunanson 2010-01-18 15:31

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leetut (Post 479943)
...does anyone know a fix for this?

Use the latest PC Suite and NOT on a win Vista

bun

Simply_Texan 2010-01-18 16:36

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Am I doing something wrong or is it not possible to enter a destination number?
Took me a bit to figure this one out. You have to press fn and the number simultaneously. I'm not sure why this is inconsistent with everything else on the phone :rolleyes:

kalx2e 2010-01-18 17:27

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I'm just wondering why you should need a (Windows) computer, a wired connection from that to N900, Maploader and an internet connection for that machine? Why so freaking difficult and Microsoft-tied?

Why not keep it simple, and have the maploader as software in N900 and download the maps OTA?

jsbigs 2010-01-18 20:15

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 447586)
N900 OVI maps step by step

1) dl maploader here,http://www.nokiausa.com/exploreservi...s-and-services, default is window and English,
2) Install it on your winPC; apparantly winXP works, vista has issues
3) Reboot PC, WONT WORK WITHOUT winPC REBOOT
4) USB connect PC and N900, choose mass storage mode
5) click open maploader on winXP
6) ...."Delete previous map data?..." Yes
7) "Update phone info..." AND automatically dl and install UK and Europe... like it or not 6) and 7) took about 10 minute, a penalty for nonEuropeans :)
8) Now you presented with a catalogue of downloadable maps, 5 of them for a total of 5.5 G, as space is precious, I would 1st delete UK and Europe to reclaim space, unless you really want them, "Delete ALL map data?" Yes
9) click the '+' next to your map of desire, US is 1.9 G and will take a total of 2 hrs for dl and install, on a good night :-)

Maps: 0.1.23.112 (2008)
Maploader 3.0.28.0

You can also do the maps manually, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36939, thread #20; not quite sure how to do the voice though, as if it matters?
Edit: more info, http://handphone-solution.blogspot.c...0-without.html

OVI maps FAQ, http://www.ovi.com/services/support/...port_maps_faqs

and please report experience here, so we can learn how to use Ovi better, Thanks, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38405

have fun,

bun

I'm on a Mac w/OS 10.6.2. After not being able to get this to work on the Mac side, I fired up XP under Parallels and was successful getting steps 1 - 9 above to work. XP asked me to install PC Suite, which I declined and it then let me connect using Mass Storage mode. After that, it was very smooth.

Rob1n 2010-01-18 21:09

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kalx2e (Post 480263)
I'm just wondering why you should need a (Windows) computer, a wired connection from that to N900, Maploader and an internet connection for that machine? Why so freaking difficult and Microsoft-tied?

Why not keep it simple, and have the maploader as software in N900 and download the maps OTA?

I don't see why you couldn't do http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=20 entirely on the N900.

rm42 2010-01-18 22:05

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply_Texan (Post 480188)
Took me a bit to figure this one out. You have to press fn and the number simultaneously. I'm not sure why this is inconsistent with everything else on the phone :rolleyes:

Thanks a lot! I should have asked earlier, I know, but as you said, this is very inconsistent with the rest of the device.

mele 2010-01-18 22:16

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Should the search be possible without internet connection or uses n900 internet to location places on ovi maps?

Rob1n 2010-01-18 22:18

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mele (Post 480892)
Should the search be possible without internet connection or uses n900 internet to location places on ovi maps?

My understanding is that the search is a server-side function (as the maps are bitmap, so contain no searchable text).

mele 2010-01-18 22:21

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 480896)
My understanding is that the search is a server-side function (as the maps are bitmap, so contain no searchable text).

thats too bad :(.

How is it at the Ovi Maps 3.0 in symbian phones? Same thing?

Rob1n 2010-01-18 22:34

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Yes, just the same.

bunanson 2010-01-19 02:59

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 480767)
I don't see why you couldn't do http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=20 entirely on the N900.

That is another way to doit . Honestly, you do think that is easier?

bun

hippo 2010-01-19 05:39

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Is not working for me on WinXP.

After installing the specified version ... I run it and it would not work until I updated to the latest.

After that its just telling me that it can not find the phone.
And it wants me to put it in PC Suite Mode.

Edit:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turns out I stupidly downloaded nokia map updated ... not map dowloader ... stupid ... stupid ... stupid ... :)

Got the right one and it worked like a charm.
But Ovi Maps 1.0 really sucks ...

gteadventure 2010-01-19 13:17

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I have the same problem. Map loader just keeps waiting for the phone. Any other thoughts?

Moloch 2010-01-19 17:33

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
same problem here :( doesnt work in mass storage or pc suite mode

unclepecos 2010-01-19 18:47

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mele (Post 480904)
thats too bad :(.

How is it at the Ovi Maps 3.0 in symbian phones? Same thing?

Actually on symbian phones it allows search in offline mode.

bunanson 2010-01-20 00:52

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsbigs (Post 480636)
... I fired up XP under Parallels and was successful getting steps 1 - 9 above to work. XP asked me to install PC Suite, which I declined and it then let me connect using Mass Storage mode. After that, it was very smooth.

Have you upgraded to PR1.1? I already upgraded and I already have Ovi map insetalled, so I cannot test what is going on with all these postings saying it wont work...., somebody please chime in, if you have NOT installed Ovi maps. TIA,

bun

jsbigs 2010-01-20 01:08

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 483287)
Have you upgraded to PR1.1? I already upgraded and I already have Ovi map insetalled, so I cannot test what is going on with all these postings saying it wont work...., somebody please chime in, if you have NOT installed Ovi maps. TIA,

bun

Yes, I had already upgraded to PR1.1.

bunanson 2010-01-20 01:27

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
@Moloch, gteadventure, hippo: Did you all follow exactly on the instructions? Like, did you reboot your desktop PC after installation of PC Suite? I found out it wont work without rebooting. If you all followed the instructions, and still it wont work, I run out of ideas, as I already have Ovi maps installed, I can test it. I am very glad that jsbigs did it after PR1.1, so upgrade should NOT be the problem of the above instructions. Somebody has NOT installed Ovi maps may try and see what is going on.

bun

timwatt 2010-01-20 20:01

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Ok so I think my problem is Vista 64 bit, as the step by step instructions don't work for me.

as anyone using 64 bit vista been able to download maps for the n900?

Majestic12 2010-01-20 23:29

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I'm using Windows 7 x64 and I also can't download the maps

hwong_pz 2010-01-21 03:32

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Bunanson's guide works for me. I just downloaded the maps and voices on a XP 32bit netbook. Since I was already charging my phone through USB, I just switch it to mass storage mode before firing up Ovi maps for the first time (I did not have PC Suite installed on this machine previously). The software actually detected that the data on my phone was outdated and prompt if I want to update it.

bunanson 2010-01-21 14:49

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Ovi map is coming free to .... "The N97 mini, E72, Nokia 5800 XpressMusic and the Nokia 5800 Navigation Edition", more details here, http://www.pcworld.com/article/18733...customers.html

There is a difference between Ovi map and Android turn by turn, same report,

"... In late 2009, Google started offering a free navigation service with turn-by-turn directions with the release of the Motorola Droid and Android OS 2.0. There are a couple of differentiators between Google Navigation and Ovi Maps, however. Ovi Maps requires no network connection for navigation so you'll save your phone's battery life and not be thrown off by cellular dead zones while on the road. Ovi Maps use something called "hybrid vector maps." According to Nokia, these maps are high quality, but less data intensive so they are actually stored on your phone when you download them...."

Bottom line, Nokia's one is better............if it does come to N900, eventually :)

bun

Ulrik 2010-01-21 15:28

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Well bunanson, your fine step by step did not work for me.
Could it really be because I am using Vista 32-bit?

Ulrik 2010-01-21 15:50

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
Hmm. Funny/wierd whatever.

Nokia have instructions on how to transfer maps onto the N900 on the homepage.

http://europe.nokia.com/support/prod...d#/nokia-n900/

Look at the bottom on the page.

"Download and install Map Loader to your compatible computer. To use Map Loader you need Nokia PC Suite installed.

Open and close Ovi Maps on your mobile, if you have not used Maps before.

Connect your device to your computer via USB or Bluetooth in PC Suite mode* and open Map Loader.

*For your Nokia N900 use Mass storage mode."

But it does not work for me - tried on Vista 32-bit.

cBeam 2010-01-21 16:01

Re: Step by step: N900 OVI maps and maploader
 
I downloaded the newer maps a couple of days ago using XP and following bun's procedure, no problem.

For the guys trying with Win7: have you tried to enable XP compatibility mode? If I remember correctly you'd need to right click on the mapload application icon and (under properties / compatibility) check and enable "run this program in compatibility mode for Win XP".

Somebody try and report back?


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