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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz View Post
I do wonder whether we can use the jTab adaptation on other Bay-Trail Z3735F SOC based Tablets, as there are a few around, although hard to find one with a decent screen...

There is already decent work on getting mainline linux to work on these Bay-Trail based devices so it would be a good place to start I think.
Baytrail is utter rubbish:
You may not want that Windows Bay Trail tablet after all

No one has succeeded in getting linux running completely on
any Bay Trail hardware - there are far too many driver issues.

Originally Posted by MartinK View Post
Note that Fedlet is Adam Wiliamsons own hobby project. But its is true that the Gnome developers do work on making Gnome shell more touch friendly, even though this is probably targeted mostly on touchscreen laptops rather than on "true" mobile devices.

As for Fedora, it already works on various arm boards, but given the condition that the target device must be able to run mainline kernel then I'm afraid we would not see it officially on many mobile devices any time soon due to the overall kernel forking madness.

Also I don think anyone has used libhybris with Fedora so far, but even when he did I'm not sure this would be supportable as an official Fedora project deliverable. But I could imagine a libhybris using Fedora spin/remix - if enough people from the Fedora community would be interested working on it.


Never underestimate AdamW, he is an one man IT army. ;-)
AdamW is the stuff of legend in the linux industry,
and is due a great deal of respect.

I was answering the previous post but got interrupted:
Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
Very cool! Any chance of this getting anything like official support from RedHat? (And, I guess, given that the Fedlet page says that it is now "Semi-Dormant", is there a future at all for Fedlet?)
Hmmm,
without dropping names or mentioning privy discussions,
I cannot provably demonstrate that Fedlet
and anything it represents is probably not going anywhere,
but you read what you might into that statement.

Just recognize that Fedora is driven by RedHat and
they have a very focused attention on where Fedora is headed
and any detours from that particular corporate toll road
would require permission never found inside their ecosystem.
Several someones at RedHat did apologize to me at one point:
they seemed to have problems with corporate direction.
From those discussions I do understand how difficult it is to keep the RHEL boat
moving in the direction of the bow without someone asking
for things which are far outside their foundry, so to speak.
But nevermind all that water under the bridge....

There are other things I know about tablets.

I am somewhat hopeful that there will eventually be an intel cpu
which is not yet another ATOM SoC (Chit ona Ship)
so we can get off the Android sludge-way.
They have not yet gotten the message yet but there is hope.
Doing anything with Android hardware is just plain ridiculous.
People who do that must be masochistic somehow.
This also applies to the SoC architecture
Intel keeps tossing on the market,
much like I did when feeding the pigs back on the farm:
It is a bucket - got something mushy in it,
the hogs are hungry so just tip it over the top rail
and watch them go at it !
That is the consumer device market - they almost do not care
what they get as long as the advertising is in color and on 24/7.


Give me a computer and a USB stick or a dvd drive
and I can generally find some way to install something on it,
regardless of whether it is ancient or leading edge.
That is strictly impossible with Android hardware.

To do anything with Android the first requirement is that you
have a working computer properly set up to juice the Arm
from outside, much like all the special tools needed to construct a
ship in a bottle
It is not impossible,
I just regard it as verging on being stupidly subservient
to people who could just as easily build proper bootloading
into the hardware.

for a more eloquent discussion of totally stupid Android is,
just dive into the horses mouth:
https://community.arm.com/groups/and...r-arm-platform

even better is this excellent explanation of why ANDROID
hardware is so blindingly stupid to work with:
http://android.stackexchange.com/que...om-a-usb-drive.

Android is not just stupid,
it is just beyond an order of magnitude more stupid.
It is the biggest reason why their is no working fremantle
ported to any working Android hardware - too much fiddling around pumping this and that into an image and retry-recompile.

but, keep in mind, Intel is not far behind with the ATOM:
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