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2012-03-16
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Originally Posted by zimon
Bigger batteries have always been around since the Motorola Startac days. That's absolutely nothing new.
For Samsung Galaxy S1:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com...9000.html?r=22
and 4 SGS2:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com...door.html?r=22
and 4 SG Note:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com...door.html?r=22
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2012-03-16
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Originally Posted by caa
Make changes with the resolution. 480 X 800 is a crappy resolution. For a screen above 4 inch we need HD resolution having PPI of 330
I've seen the N10 fan-created concept posted on various blogs, but I was just wondering, would you buy a Nokia N10 with the following features?
(EDIT NOTE: If you would prefer a different spec you can choose the 'Only if it had some other feature' option)
- 4.3inch AMOLED screen (Gorilla Glass, 480 x 800)
- Single piece Polycarbonate Body as with N9
- Similar form-factor to Lumia 900
- 1GHz Dual Core TI OMAP4 Arm Cortex A9 with PowerVR SGX540
- 1GB LPDDR2 RAM
- 64GB Flash storage space
- LTE-ready Modem
- Larger battery 1830mAh (BP-6EW)
- Official USB-OTG support with included adapter
- 8MP camera with Carl Zeiss lens
- Colour options of only:
- matte-black
- glossy white
- Meego-Harmattan extended beyond N9 PR 1.3 (with better features/performance for web browser and music player app)
- Possibly with improved interface and swipe 'backstacking' in music player (rather than back-arrow)
- Handset MRSP Price £599 / $699 / €649
- OPTIONAL ACCESSORY : Official NFC Attachable/Detachable Hardware Keyboard (availble in black/glossy white). MSRP £59 / $69 / €65
- OPTIONAL ACCESSORY : Official NFC Attachable/Detachable Gaming Pad (availble in black/glossy white). MSRP £59 / $69 / €65
- (Attaches to back of handset. Camera lens and flash would have be closer to the corner of handset, keyboard would have gap/notch in the same corner)
EDIT: Any other preferred specs are welcome.
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2012-03-16
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#94
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Originally Posted by danramos
Do I need to point out to you that Linux and Maemo are two different things? Maemo isn't Linux. Maemo USES a Linux kernel (a tweaked one, at that).
i said gnu/linux not linux, linux kernel by itself is nothing
memo is linux distribution
android is not
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2012-03-16
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All I'd want is a 4.5 inch version my freemantle-running *N900* but with dual core processor at 2 Ghz, 2 Gig of RAM, capacitive touch screen BUT with a pressure sensitive stylus included, and a massive battery that simply doesn't end.
Freemantle - to me - was way better than Harmattan in so many ways, and the only thing that really made the N900 problematic was the underpoweredness of the hardware (too slow, too little ram), the resistive screen (tho I *loved* the pressure sensitivity part of it), and the battery running out way too quick.
Featurewise, I much preffered fremantle.
/Z
Freemantle - to me - was way better than Harmattan in so many ways, and the only thing that really made the N900 problematic was the underpoweredness of the hardware (too slow, too little ram), the resistive screen (tho I *loved* the pressure sensitivity part of it), and the battery running out way too quick.
Featurewise, I much preffered fremantle.
/Z
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2012-03-16
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Why do so many people believe that multitasking MUST be killing battery life? It's only killing battery life if developers are stupid enough to ignore the "you're now running in the background" message from the OS. Even then, because many apps are almost always merely waiting for some event from the user, network or a timer, they use zero energy. Zilch. None. Have a look at how many processes your pc has active now. And what your CPU load is.
Battery technology needs to advance to where multi-tasking doesn't hit the battery as hard as it currently does.
At least the N9/Maemo doesn't require jumping through hoops for app-developers to create background-capable apps. In fact, most of the time developers wouldn't have to do a single thing for it to work - just like on every pc in the world.
From both developer as user standpoint the multitasking on the N9 is excellent, much friendlier than iOS, WP and even Android. In that regard, Symbian does a great job as well.
Last edited by Fuzzillogic; 2012-03-16 at 12:34.
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2012-03-16
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Yes, but the point was, that battery life is a bad excuse not to have real multitasking in Android, iOS, WP. There could be a global user setting in every mobile OS, for user to select if (s)he allows some or all applications to run in the background or not. For basic users they could easily let be forbidden non-special apps running in bg.
Bigger batteries have always been around since the Motorola Startac days. That's absolutely nothing new.
And those who want to run battery consuming applications in the background, can buy a bigger battery, unless design is so stupid as in iPhones, WP-phones and N9; with too complex back cover, that one cannot use 3rd party batteries because it is not practical for (i.e.) Mugen to make those for them.
N9's backside may be pretty, but is unpractical for a heavy user.
Android's, iOS's and WP's way of doing "multitasking" is inferior to Symbian, Maemo, Meego and Tizen.
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2012-03-16
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Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic
Then I need better explanations of why my Maemo products have consistently had less battery life than iOS, Android and WP7 and have had similar, if not greater battery mAh capacities.
Why do so many people believe that multitasking MUST be killing battery life?
Let's be honest. Symbian does a great job, but from the ground up, it has enjoyed resources that would make mobile OS's jealous. Teams upon teams, resource upon resource, group upon group of engineers, programmers and managers have worked on Symbian. Yet, here we are that it's an highly efficient OS that's being killed off because of this over-dedication of resources by the current board of directors.
Maemo has always enjoyed a smaller set of resources, engineers, funding and mindshare. Yet... here we are at a Maemo-centric resource. So it must have done something right.
iOS, Android and WP7 - they enjoy huge amounts of resources, engineers, funding and mindshare (WP7 not so much mindshare as the others) - and they all have very flawed, if almost non-existent multi-tasking. But they're great at serial tasking and still have the ability to appear to run many applications at once, yet do not.
Multi-tasking has historically been an intense affair in regards to CPU and OS resources. Now, we take it for granted. And worse... we expect it to work like it does on our 32-bit/64-bit desktop OS - in some cases, it delivers too (read: Maemo). But we have to be honest that also means more CPU and/or RAM usage, and thus a spike in what we need to support that.
Arguing what a programmer should/shouldn't do - we're past that. Either it works well or it doesn't. It is that absolute. So the hardware now becomes the buffer. Either it supports the feature that were programmed as such, or the programmer has to either limit or work within those limitations. Common sense, right? As it should be... so addressing that shouldn't be brought up - we've already accepted that fact of life.
But hardware and battery technology - face it, battery capacity, discharge rates are being outpaced by CPU, GPU and screen technology. I would love a phone that I didn't have to charge up daily and not weigh a ton.
To say that batteries are "up-to-par" with the aforesaid components (OS, screen, CPU/GPU) would be a rather uninformed statement, imho.
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2012-03-16
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Wait a minute, it's certainly not worse than Android 4x or WP7x... iOS5x slightly & Symbian heaps, yes.
But in the comparos I've seen.... (heaps have been posted here)
It's def. not worse consumption-wise than Android or WP when usage pattern is avg'd out to "typical user".*
WP seems to be slightly better than Android, but the within the error of margin I guess.
Maemo 6x seems to be ever so slightly ahead of both, but within the error margin too possibly.
*highly subjective I know.
Last edited by jalyst; 2012-03-16 at 16:49. Reason: typo
But in the comparos I've seen.... (heaps have been posted here)
It's def. not worse consumption-wise than Android or WP when usage pattern is avg'd out to "typical user".*
WP seems to be slightly better than Android, but the within the error of margin I guess.
Maemo 6x seems to be ever so slightly ahead of both, but within the error margin too possibly.
*highly subjective I know.
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2012-03-16
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Honestly, the N9 has proven to be far less usable without a charger within reach.
Wait a min, it's certainly not worse than Android 4x or WP7x... iOS5x slightly yes...
Only my stock Samsung Captivate was worse with about 6 hours of my type of usage - a custom ROM (Serendipity) resolved that for me. No such luck with the N9. 8 hours if I'm lucky; on standby though, it's great for 2 days.
PR1.2 has made my battery life much worse than PR1.1 ever was.
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