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2008-09-04
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#102
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FF 1.5 and FF 2 was killing me on the desktop, for exactly those reasons Benson lists. I always kept it up and running, and it would eat hundreds and hundreds of megs after a while, until I had to shut it down (actually I kept several running, in different accounts - to keep some of those cookies separated). Thus losing my carefully collected pages.
FF 3 is much better. The memory leak seems gone, or at least much better. It's also much faster on e.g. Google mail, where (due to a slightly higher round-trip-time at my site than what's optimal) the ajax/javascript slowed everything down something terrible. 15-20 seconds between clicking an email until it was scrollable! (in pre-FF3).
Still, it'll be interesting to see where this chrome thing will go.
FF 3 is much better. The memory leak seems gone, or at least much better. It's also much faster on e.g. Google mail, where (due to a slightly higher round-trip-time at my site than what's optimal) the ajax/javascript slowed everything down something terrible. 15-20 seconds between clicking an email until it was scrollable! (in pre-FF3).
Still, it'll be interesting to see where this chrome thing will go.
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2008-09-04
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#103
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Originally Posted by Benson
So V8 isn't currently much better than FF3's JS engine?
And if V8 gets substantially better than FF3.1's JS engine does, it'll get adopted; if they stay even, I hope we can look forward to two great engines for the tablets: MicroB (but up-to-date) and a Chrome-derived Webkit/V8 (also up-to-date).
I've heard great things about Webkit on the tablets, at least one poster claimed that Epiphany with Webkit is faster than MicroB on the N8x0. I can't really comment either way, I haven't spent enough time with Epiphany yet.
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2008-09-04
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#104
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Originally Posted by qole
V8 is much faster than ff3 and on par with ff3.1 ( tracemonkey ).
So V8 isn't currently much better than FF3's JS engine?
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2008-09-04
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#105
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Originally Posted by qole
from what i understand, V8 is faster then the FF3.0 JS engine. but benchmarks done with the spidermonkey engine that will be introduced in FF3.1 beats V8.
So V8 isn't currently much better than FF3's JS engine?
question is how much V8 have improved before mozilla gets around to releasing FF3.1...
btw, firefox uses a lot of javascript internally to power the gui, right?
so potentially, a faster javascript engine would result in a faster firefox gui, not just faster rendering of ajax content?
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2008-09-04
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#106
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Allegedly they have removed the part of their user agreement that gave them copyrights to anything you don with Chrome. They claim it was a mistake due to that fact that they were using a standard service agreement.
Does Google not make enough money to hire competent lawyers?
Does Google not make enough money to hire competent lawyers?
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2008-09-04
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#107
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Originally Posted by Wes Doobner
Their motto is "do no evil"... so understaffing lawyers seems to support that motto
Does Google not make enough money to hire competent lawyers?
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2008-09-04
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#108
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indeed, lawyers, at least copyright/license lawyers, is at best skirting the edge of the dark side...
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2008-09-04
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#109
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Originally Posted by tso
Tracemonkey
from what i understand, V8 is faster then the FF3.0 JS engine. but benchmarks done with the spidermonkey engine that will be introduced in FF3.1 beats V8.
question is how much V8 have improved before mozilla gets around to releasing FF3.1...
btw, firefox uses a lot of javascript internally to power the gui, right?
so potentially, a faster javascript engine would result in a faster firefox gui, not just faster rendering of ajax content?
And yes, you're right. Now in my about:config i have two options:
javascript.options.jit.content
javascript.options.jit.chrome
I've only set content to true, chrome is for the more adventurous...
BTW, the AwesomeBar feels much faster in 3.1 too.
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2008-09-04
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#110
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Originally Posted by qole
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So V8 isn't currently much better than FF3's JS engine?
I've heard great things about Webkit on the tablets, at least one poster claimed that Epiphany with Webkit is faster than MicroB on the N8x0. I can't really comment either way, I haven't spent enough time with Epiphany yet.
Thanks for that post. Yes, it was me who was raving about epiphany-webkit...it's speed anyway. The problem with it was, that it would, seemingly randomly, seg fault on 50% of pages making it unusable. Your above post and my memory of how fast it was otherwise, inspired me to take another look at the problem. It was very simple. gcjwebplugin was causing it to crash (because it's meant for gecko), so uninstalling fixed the it.
The itT main forum page loads in 4 seconds in epiphany-webkit!
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Mobile Device lineage: Palm Z22 -> Palm TX -> Nokia N800 -> Nokia N900
And if V8 gets substantially better than FF3.1's JS engine does, it'll get adopted; if they stay even, I hope we can look forward to two great engines for the tablets: MicroB (but up-to-date) and a Chrome-derived Webkit/V8 (also up-to-date).