Originally Posted by Crogge

I see, well look at http://thenokiablog.com/2010/05/25/h...900-maemo-1-2/

1. flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.19-1.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin -f

2. flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

So they wrote it wrong?

Originally Posted by nermaljcat

Is there much difference between the US and Global versions?

Originally Posted by slender

The point here is that I hereby admit that actually I really do not know much. I can speculate and guess, but to say something as fact here I would need some links/sources/documentation to back my facts.

And still I do not care that you have seen schematics. Probably nokian's have testbed where they can do whatever they want to this device. So what? Right now it seems that modem fw is not reversible with given tools. You can always of course argue that any encryption is breakable with right tools and enough resources but that´s just academic jerk offing.Saying that it´s a fact that you can´t brick your N900 sounds just bit off. For example I have been on forums where people have bricked their cd-rom drives, GPU's, motherboards just by applying wrong FW. YES it´s possible to reverse it but not by themselves so basically they have killed their device and only way to resurrect it is to send back to vendor.

And btw. as you know this is my second language and at least I know how to put paragraphs. And please try to think even then when you thought that you do not have to think.

Originally Posted by abill_uk

Your understanding is not full because you are obviously not an engineer and i took for granted that maybe you were and that's the reason you don't understand me in full.
You going off on a different road altogether here and it does not apply to the N900 the facts you are talking about.
N900 is not a cd rom drive and we are not talking about encrypted fw here as it is in fact open source linux.
I will start the thread and get back to you.

Originally Posted by slender

Actually in a matter of speaking I am :| M.Sc.
And I thought quite contrary about your statements. I tried to find scientific way of looking things and not to jump conclusions about "facts". And why you are talking about encryption? Ain´t just some parts of FW updates closed binaries and flasher program flashes some parts only if it´s older (like gsm modem fw). And more importantly what I said were NOT facts as you are referring they were just observations how other devices work when we are speaking about fw-updates. (Btw. because of what you have said here (or way how you have said it) it also means that it´s "fact" impossible to hack official image file or flasher so that it bricks your device to condition that user is not able to fix it. So if this is the truth then you actually might be right)

But it´s nice that you are planning to make wiki/thread about this issue and that is probably the most appropriate way to use our energy here in maemo-world.