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Is there a section to talk about Java ME? Apps, etc. (6)
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2012-06-18
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#82
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The can of worms has been opened up on this thread and i reckon it will be a huge one.
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2012-06-18
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Don't see why you would and don't see why it would matter.
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First of all Bernard please forgive me but i do not actually know who you are or your position.
I'm just a user and I love to hack and tinker with my gadgets. I would like to keep using my Maemo/MeeGo devices as I do now. And that includes stuff like:
- looking up information on the wiki
- posting questions on a forum
- downloading applications from a repository
- selling/buying applications from a store
- uploading source to an auto building system
- using the application SDK (QtSDK)
- using the system SDK (Scratchbox SDK)
- re-flashing when I screwed up my device
information is scattered on a lot of differen Nokia site:
- maemo.org
- maemo garage, like http://pc-connectivity.garage.maemo.org/ and http://pluthon.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/
- Qt site
- harmattan dev site
- Harmattan SDK site
- meego site
- Nokia developer site
- Scratchbox is also Nokia sponsored
- Syncevolution also?
Possibly even more locations.
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2012-06-18
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Originally Posted by tekojo
Also the apt repositories under catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com / downloads.maemo.nokia.com, the nokia-binaries SDK repositories etc.
tabletsdev is the only area which has material that is under licences (Nokia and third party)
Aside from that, the thing that most people here don't seem to grasp is the size of maemo.org. The forums are one small part of it all. The big parts are the old autobuilder, the new OBS, the repositories and the content delivery network.
If you recall the N900 has Extras as an official repository. That means that every single day, every single network connected N900 pings the repository (the content delivery network in the middle takes the load) and checks if something has changed.
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2012-06-18
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Originally Posted by lma
That's a question to Kate or Quim, but don't expect specific numbers, no phone manufacturer gives out detailed numbers (except when they sensationally tell the world that they sold N million devices in M months).
Also the apt repositories under
It would be useful if the maintainers could publish some concrete usage figures (current and trends) so we could get a grasp of the size of the thing instead of some nebulous notion that it's too big to move elsewhere.
However I think I can say that the traffic originating from the N900s out there is something that needs some sort of content delivery network, or load balancing. The load comes from all over the planet and continuously.
The other parts of the system could probably be dealt with plain hardware. Of course the builder or OBS machines are pretty big, but not impossible.
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2012-06-18
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Originally Posted by Texrat
OMG, you are MODERATOR :-O
... I'll show you what entitlement means when I start seriously moderating.
what does it has to do with fact that you attacked guy who was complaining about management's statements?
so, you are moderator and you need to defend attacked qgil?
abill_uk just wanted to know what will happen with maemo.org because, seems like he is one who cares about maemo, unlike employee/spokesman
however, when you was attacking abill_uk, mr qgil was online, reading whole thread, so, what was your point?
unless you have some personal issues with abill_uk?
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2012-06-18
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Originally Posted by tekojo
Not those kind of numbers, just relevant figures to determine the necessary capacity for hosting things. Ie, I'd like to see data like "Fremantle extras uses X GiB/month, rising (or falling) by Y%", "Diablo builder uses N hosts of such and such CPU/RAM/disk specs at M% utilisation rising/failling by whataver" etc.
That's a question to Kate or Quim, but don't expect specific numbers, no phone manufacturer gives out detailed numbers (except when they sensationally tell the world that they sold N million devices in M months).
However I think I can say that the traffic originating from the N900s out there is something that needs some sort of content delivery network, or load balancing.
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2012-06-18
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Originally Posted by tekojo
That would be the traffic to the repositories right? Since the amount of devices in use is only going to decline from now, that is something that would only decrease from now.
However I think I can say that the traffic originating from the N900s out there is something that needs some sort of content delivery network, or load balancing. The load comes from all over the planet and continuously.
Is that difficult to setup/expensive?
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2012-06-18
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Also; the community will in any case find out those numbers the hard way when we start hosting the reporitories on community servers[1]. Except by that time we'll most likely have guestimated wrong and either have a massively oversubscribed service that crumbles under the load, or grossly overspent to build capacity that no one ended up needing. Who wants that?
[1] Unless Nokia refuses to let us use the maemo.org domain for such hosting, which would be a pretty asinine thing to do but not inconceivable.
[1] Unless Nokia refuses to let us use the maemo.org domain for such hosting, which would be a pretty asinine thing to do but not inconceivable.
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2012-06-18
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Originally Posted by lma
Isn't the name Maemo also Nokia property? In that case it could very well be that they don't want an outside project using a name that they own and will be connected to the main Nokia brand without having any control over it anymore.
[1] Unless Nokia refuses to let us use the maemo.org domain for such hosting, which would be a pretty asinine thing to do but not inconceivable.
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I am already as angry as I can be with Nokia (top-level management), so my "anger level" won't change - but if they pulled the maemo.org infrastructure rug out from under my devices, I would be looking into channeling my anger into any sort of legal action remotely possible. How about a class action by all TMO members?
Please note that this is not directed at you personally. I appreciate all your efforts, as I appreciate yours, kates and Reggie's contributions in this thread.
Last edited by bocephus; 2012-06-18 at 11:04.